I'm going to ask nicely again. Please stop trolling the het thread. If you want to talk about how superior girl on girl action is, please use this thread instead.
I'll get the ball rolling.
"Shoujo-ai" is not an anime genre.
For love between girls is used "yuri", while "shonen-ai" is used for love between boys, or "yaoi" if it contains adult themes.
Except for the last image, you only posted alternative pairings. I would suggest to start a new thread with the correct title and with a Nanoha and Fate picture to get the attention of the people visiting this site.
Uh... perhaps you should check your facts before you complain. Just like how shounen-ai means boy love, shoujo-ai means girl love. Like yaoi, yuri is also used to describe the adult material.
The thread title is apt. Also, there are far more girl/girl pairings than NanoFate, ya know. Heaven forbid we have some diversity around here.
>>11
It's a troll. Pretend it's not there.
And now, some sisterly lovin. Aren't they cute? ^_^
>Uh... perhaps you should check your facts before you complain.
>>11
"Shoujo-ai" literally means "girls love", but it's not used as an anime genre, it's a misconception of some people.
Yuri stands for both adult and standard material, while Yaoi and Shonen-Ai are differentiated.
>>12
So because you don't share my point of view I must be a troll? I can say the same about you then.
Ok, but what's your point? Genres have nothing to do with anything. This thread was made to let people post their pictures of girl/girl content. Much like the het thread is for boy/girl content. "Girls love" is as good a title as any other. At least it wasn't labeled the "Homo thread." That would be offensive.
>>14
K.
Anyway, NanoFate.
So jealous of Hayate right now. ;_;
"Merry Christmas, Nanoha. <3"
By the way, if anyone has that pic with Nanoha putting cold pads (or whatever they're called) on Fate's armpits and then she flips on onto her back, could they post it? Thanks in advance.
Nanoha is my master.
But Fate-chan gets a turn too.
>>36
Thanks.
I want some Nanoha and Fate plushies. ._.
HayatexAll the females
OTHarem hahaha
Now that my computer is fixed I can dump more NanoFate. This day is getting off to a wonderful start. XD
Wahahaha now my internet is slow. ;_;
Nanoha's eyes full of...love?
>>64
DEEP labu.
Is there any more to the S&M scenes in the Neko Nanoha doujin? I've seen both the translated version and raws but it seems incomplete to me.
>>71
Hmm... Fate should be a puppy instead of a cat.
"Vivio, that's Fate-mama's area. Don't touch."
"Nnn... =("
"Nyahaha! Fate-chan's saying weird things again."
>>74
I wonder where is Fate's right hand and what's with Nanoha's expression.
Nyanoha Nyanoha Nyanoha
Fate is so serious...but why are they in bikinis/sportswear?
in b4 who cares TITS
Telepathy sex?
>>97
What bothers me is Tea's pose. She looks like she's just discovered a new clue or something.
Oops. Disregard that. I thought the big arrows were pointing out how Fate has her hand on Subaru's shoulder, but on closer inspection, it looks like Nanoha's hand is on there too.
>>106
FatexHayate is something I don't see much.
It's like a rare treat.
>>108
Is the blonde man on the right supposed to be Fate?
I'd say so. Some artist have a tendency to draw Fate more manly, for reasons that completely escape me.
That'd be just weird. Genderbending both Hayate and Fate just to have some shounen-ai?
.... though I guess it's possible. Ah well, let's just keep it to the artists' style and say they're just drawn awkwardly manly.
Also, less confusing pic.
>>110
God, I hate that. Fate can be kind of masculine at times but she's very feminine. Also, that whole Fate-papa thing... Ah, but fanartists don't care as long as they can put their imaginations on paper. Still, pisses me off though.
I guess heterosexism shines through even in the homosexual fanbase. Since most are raised with a notion of a 'man/woman' relationship, even when it comes to same sex relations, one is seen as the dominate 'male' and one the submissive 'female'. I guess they just decided that Fate fits that 'male' role.
Of course in reality, same sex relations actually function better than heterosexual relationships because same sex couples are free from such gender roles. Course other things such as amount of income can still affect the power balance.
>>122
Maybe I lack imagination, but I just can't accept the idea of Fate as a male (maybe Signum, but not Fate), nor can I see Nanoha as "submissive" or Fate as "dominating".
http://nanochan.org/board/kareha.pl/1234271375/170
http://nanochan.org/board/kareha.pl/1234271375/169
I don't agree with it either, but the fact remains that a lot of fan art/fiction portray one as the 'husband' and one as the 'wife'.
... And in the case of Fate, sometimes she's a crazy, perverted stalker.
That's really a pity. The good thing about yuri is that there are two girls instead of just one -- twice the enjoyment.
Well, that depends on who you ask, I suppose. Some men would disagree with you, cuz while there may be two girls, they'd never allow a man to hop in there with them.
Anyways, the aforementioned characterization is the main reason why I don't read NanoFate fanfiction. I do have some real nice doujinshi, though.
Well considering Fate is kind of the bread winner in some sense with her doing the most dangerous stuff...
Still the relationship could go either way as to regards to whose the dad and whose the mum... the first season would defintly be Nanoha been the man with the way she handed Fate's butt back to her... more than once if I recall! lol
while in Strikers is looks more like Fate been the man of the two... maybe when Vivio was been a bad girl and Nanoha went off to punish her like a mother would probably was the reason why I thought of that... well maybe...
Well, I believe the question here is why does one have to be the 'mom' and one the 'dad'? Why can't they just be, ya know, Nanoha and Fate? Why must they be forced into such roles dictated by society?
This is an inherent problem with any kind of relationship.
Feels downright weird.
Some people (not many apparently) want a heterosexual relationship -- Nanoha x Yuuno. OK, fine.
Some people want a homosexual relationship -- Nanoha x Fate. Fine too.
But some people want a homosexual relationship (Nanoha x Fate) with a man and a woman -- i.e. a homosexual heterosexual relationship. Uh?
>>129
All I can say is, uh, stereotypes? I don't know; I've never really thought about it but now that you guys are talking about this, it is pretty weird. lol When I see homosexual couples, there always seems to be a "man" and "woman". But why can't they be just, as >>128 put it, a regular couple? Maybe some people feel that despite being in a taboo relationship that they still have to adhere to some kind of social role?
Who knows but I'm satisfied with Fate and Nanoha just being Fate and Nanoha. They're like two pieces of a puzzle. Doujins tend to exaggerate to the point where they're just stereotypes. In fact, I don't think I've read a doujin that hasn't done this. Hmm... I'll look through my collection later.
Hm..I'm not quite sure what I'm trying to say but I'm tired and I don't think I'm making sense...lol
> When I see homosexual couples, there always seems to be a "man" and "woman"
When two men have sex, one uses his dick and one doesn't. So yeah, there's an asymmetry.
But is there such a "natural" asymmetry in yuri?
> Nanoha been the man with the way she handed Fate's butt back to her... more than once if I recall!
Why would "being better at fighting" be linked to "being a man"?
That may be true in boxing or other ways of fighting with a strong emphasis on muscles, but not in magic, and definitely not in the nanoverse.
This all depends on how we interpret the situation of the couple in our social reality.
So, if for us in homosexual couples there is always one performing a "male role" and the partner the "female role" because society tells us to think that way, then we'll try to make those stereotypes fit in every couple. And this will be possible always. For example for the couple of Nanoha and Fate we can say that Fate has the male role, because she's working away and according to our society that is a task mostly for males. But this is only because we can tag it as "male" in this kind of society, however we can use other kind of stereotypes like submissive/dominant (which is not equal to male/female, even if in our society the dominant is often the male, it's not the same), or even tag Fate as the female considering other factors like having a more "feminine" personality.
It all depends on the person, but personally I don't see this kind of stereotypes often in serious (non porn) nanofate doujinshi, or in fanfiction.
You can see it the way you want, but it doesn't mean that there is a male and a female.
Part of me thinks the whole Papa Mama thing comes from the terms used by Hotaru (Sailor Saturn) towards her adoptive parents.
Then again i find that Hotaru and Vivio are alot alike in some ways......
-Gabe
> because she's working away and according to our society that is a task mostly for males.
In Japan maybe. But around here, the norm would be that both parents work.
BTW, it's the same with Vivio: both Nanoha and Fate work; that's why Zafira and Aina are there to take care of her.
>>When two men have sex, one uses his dick and one doesn't. So yeah, there's an asymmetry.
Not necessarily. They could always take turns.
>>But is there such a "natural" asymmetry in yuri?
I don't think so either. Unless toys get involved. Or futa, but futa doujins usually go one of two ways: 'girl gets a penis and decides to use it' or 'girl gets a penis and other girls decide to use it'.
>>So, if for us in homosexual couples there is always one performing a "male role" and the partner the "female role" because society tells us to think that way, then we'll try to make those stereotypes fit in every couple.
This. Course in Fate's case, there is that one interview where the director or some one describes her role as a work away father or something.
>>In Japan maybe. But around here, the norm would be that both parents work
Well, it's not quite reached that level of normality, yet. There certainly has been a great improvement in the percieved flexibility of women's roles over the past few decades, but we are still prone to fall into patriarchal mindsets. It's even worse in Japan, though, as their society is far more sexist than ours.
But yeah. Nanoha as a franchise has always been breaking the mold. Mecha-style magic girl action, mage being an occupation, the increasing age of the characters, and stable career women. It's the fans who warp things a bit to fit their social image. It's not really their fault though, that's just the environment they grew up in. All we can do is recognise the issue, and make sure we don't fall into such trappings ourselves.
I'm currently taking 3 courses at University dealing with this subject.
>>131
Well, there are a lot of ways that... Usually, it's made up by having one be more dominating than the other.
>I'm currently taking 3 courses at University dealing with this subject.
We have an expert here, guys. What kind of courses are you taking?
Hmm... this discussion is getting serious. ^_^ Not to mention, beyond my dull brain. lol
Well this debate is really actually pretty good with no one really flaming but debating our way of thinking because of the society we are born and raised.
Either way it don't matter whose the papa mama but they do matter to Vivio who calls both of them mama... imagine if she get's older she drops their first name and simply say mama...
I could imagine Vivio sulking to a friend about her mama for grounding and her friend saying Nanoha is strict only to have Vivio tell her it's Fate who grounded her... just some random thought I just thought was funny while i reading what you guys were talking about, that's all!
Ha, well, I'm no expert. I'm still learning, so don't take what I say as absolute truth. The specific names of the courses I'm taking are "Psychology of Sex and Gender", "Sociology of Sexualities", and "Sociology of the Family".
And why there's no flaming? I'm guessing it's because no one's saying "Nanoha and Fate are not a couple!"
>>139
Oh yeah, I'm liking this discussion. I don't usually this kind of talk without flaming on imageboards. I don't have enough knowledge or experience to contribute so I'll just read along. lol
I've thought about Vivio asking Nanoha and Fate about the birds and bees. I imagine poor Fate blushing and blanking out while Nanoha tells her how it is. ("Listen, Vivio. B-Boys take their pOnOs, girls have their vagOOO, then the boys J-J-JAM IT IN! Got it?") Or even Hayate telling her the only thing that matter is skinship. lol
It looks like I'm late for the debate, but I agree with "NOUZ". It's good to see that this was settled fine and with no flaming.
Animated gif:
>Fate: !!
>Nanoha: I-like-you ♥
>Fate: I-love-you
>(Kiss)
>Subaru: Ah! Nanoha-san!
>Subaru: (Shock)
>Subaru: (Runs)
Really!!!! shocked look
I vote for Hayate telling that as well knowing her and her wondering hands for boobs... (Fate breast must have gotten bigger because of Hayate!!!!)
On another note don't Vivio already know she's a clone when she was battling Nanoha or could we simply say "she knew that until she got Starlight Breaker x 5 by Nanoha-mama..."
She knows. Otto's not letting her forget that anytime soon.
I personally like it better when Fate is portrayed androgynously by artists then when she is portrayed with massive breasts.
I mean, it's weird enough that she can move faster then the eye can see, and is sometimes portrayed as an excellent athlete even without magic, despite having hair down to her ankles. That hair must weigh a lot!
Maybe it's the ribbons that weigh the most!!!
If I remember correctly from reading a manga by 7arc (can't even remember who did it really!) Fate was really good but she met her rival in the form of Suzaka who knocked Fate out while they were playing volleyball!!!
> I personally like it better when Fate is portrayed androgynously by artists then when she is portrayed with massive breasts.
I tend to dislike both. If you want to draw someone who doesn't look like Fate, just draw someone else!
Likewise, I don't like fanfics that are too much out of character.
In StrikerS, she does have ample breasts, but it stays credible (say, Claudia Schiffer-like).
> despite having hair down to her ankles.
There's an interesting article about that here:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapunzelHair
In particular:
"This troper wonders if the problems of long hair are mostly due to not being used to it. All the people I've known who complained about long hair and cut it short had not had it long for a long time. I, on the other hand, have butt-length hair, and have for many many many years (it hasn't been short since I was a toddler, pretty much). I have not experienced any of the problems mentioned in the first paragraph, aside from it occasionally getting in the way, but that's rare."
So yeah, Fate always has had very long hair, so she's just used to it.
>By the third season of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, Fate's hair is down past her hips and is tied off with a spiffy black bow, presumably to keep it from getting caught in things.
lol Gotta love anime logic. I was thinking today that with all that aerial fighting she does, it's amazing that her hair hasn't been accidentally sliced or even burned off once or twice.
>>153
I suppose her barrier jacket protects all her body, including her hair.
BTW, suspension of disbelief is a weird thing: we can accept easily that Fate uses magic, but it's more difficult to accept that she can have/handle such long hair.
Similarly, when I showed Card Captor Sakura to a friend of mine, what surprised her is not that Sakura can use magic, but that a ten-year-old girl can cook so well ~_~
@Fabien
Not saying that I don't find the depiction of Fate as a borderline crossdresser off, just that I find the opposite extreme almost physically disgusting.
>>155 IMHO, both are equally bad, and should be ignored. AIDS doesn't make cancer a good thing.
Combat in anime is never really realistic. I mean, she's wielding a scythe as her main combat weapon. Anyone who has picked up a scythe knows that scythes make very bad combat weapons.
But really, why should it be realistic? We don't watch anime for its amazing realism, do we? We watch anime, no, we watch Nanoha to see girls kick ass with amazing spells and cool weapons.
And damned if they're not good at it.
>>154
Oh right. That makes sense. I did read somewhere that the barrier jacket has innate protection against the elements as well. That explains why Fate could run around in a thin jumpsuit in the middle of the night with barely a shiver.
>That explains why Fate could run around in a thin jumpsuit in the middle of the night with barely a shiver.
Her hair keeps her warm ;-)
>>159
Her hair keeps me warm too in a way... :3
By the way, anyone else think it weird that Hayate was pretty much the only one who seems to get haircuts? I thought that Nanoha would be the one to keep her hair as a sane length but it looks like she stopped cutting it since A's.
Or maybe I should stop trying to make sense out of meaningless things since most of the crap I'm thinking about is probably due to a whim of an artist.
> By the way, anyone else think it weird that Hayate was pretty much the only one who seems to get haircuts?
Hayate's hair doesn't grow at all. That's why her red and yellow ornaments don't move.
Nanoha and Fate don't seem to cut their hair. But there are lots of other characters:
OTOH, Kyaro's hair has grown quite a bit after StrikerS.
> Or maybe I should stop trying to make sense out of meaningless things since most of the crap I'm thinking about is probably due to a whim of an artist.
Yes, you're definitely right on this point. However, it's fun to try and rationalize artists' whims ;-)
Well it seems that those two don't cut their hair at all... makes me wonder why when Hayate cuts hers (assumption here) while Tena seems to have grown hers a little from the cover of the Sound track I saw.
The knights I doubt will grow since they are in one sense don't age so we could assume that their hair do not grow either.
Relevant for this thread:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mntzwyzjnhd
http://www.nanofate.net/?p=54
Hayate hand is going to go bye bye soon!
Has someone forgotten about these two?
>>161
lol Another thing about Hayate's hair is that she seems to be the only one in the series who uses conditioner. But I wonder why Arisa's hair kept getting shorter? Was she heartbroken over "losing" Nanoha? Hmm... Maybe Caro's trying to become pretty like her big sister Fate-san?
>>165
I love this doujin. Fate makes some great (perverted) faces in it. Triple Nanoha...
> But I wonder why Arisa's hair kept getting shorter?
Probably just because it looks good on her.
Or maybe it's the "hyperactive girl" look, shorts + short hair, like Subaru.
I can see that coming... I wonder how well will Subaru and Arisa get along if they met for the first time WITHOUT Nanoha introducing them... all hell break loose anyone??
>>171
Well, Subaru feels very much like an overenthusiastic puppy dog. That should go well with dog-lover Arisa.
Besides, I can't really picture Subaru not getting along well with someone.
You have a point, I could picture Arisa taking puppy Subaru home.....
> But now she looks like Shamal.
The hair, yeah, a bit.
But her expression of tranquil self-confidence doesn't fit Shamal.
> Even if Arisa didn't like Subaru at first, I'm sure Subaru could win her over sooner or later.
Yeah, I'm sure Arisa at her worst would still be easier to win over than Tiana was.
Besides, Subaru proved she's obstinate (if less violent than Nanoha) when she's decided to befriend someone.
>Even if Arisa didn't like Subaru at first
She didn't? when was that?
>Yeah, I'm sure Arisa at her worst would still be easier to win over than Tiana was.
Subaru really knows how to take care tsunderes, huh?
Still I would like them to bring them back if they EVER do another 4th Series!!!
it's because they never got much screen time and plus I would like to know whatever happened to them since we last seen them.
when i see that image the caption in my head is, "do you think you can last longer than Erio did"
-G
Not many were expecting this kind of pic were they??
>>196
HayatexReinforce/ReinII yuri art is always odd to me. Well, I can't really speak because I haven't seen that many but yeah... Odd...
I wonder if Hayate/Rein would be considered as incest of some sort. I mean, Hayate did create her, so she's technically Rein's mother.
No, 198 is right. Hayate did create Rein from her own Linker Core, so yes, you could technically consider Hayate/Rein II to be incest.
Not really, since the original Rein was pretty much just the book's management program, much like the Wolkenritter were just the book's defense programs, then those 2 wouldn't really be incest as much as a servant/master thing.
The original Reinforce would be a master/servant thing, agreed, but Rein Zwei is created from Hayate's Linker Core, so basically Hayate gave birth to Rein (I think she even describes Rein's creation as birth in StrikerS).
But hey, who cares about a little bit of semi-incest anyway?
>>202
Yeah, compared to the Alicia/Fate couple, it's nothing.
... For some reason the first thing that popped into my head was Nanoha saying "You mean I can have TWO!?"
Give Nanoha half the chance she would probably want a legion of Fate's for her own... let's not go there shall we?
If you have the CG set it's from, there's a version with text on it... and the text basically translates that they were dressing themselves up for Yuuno but he walked in on them prematurely. Not lying. If I could remember who made it I'd tell you to look it up on /rs/ and see for yourself. It's the same artist as http://nanochan.org/board/src/1243041928787.jpg and he only draws het sets.
I'm really sorry, but I can't help but laugh at my imagined reaction on the faces of those reading that post.
That's okay, you can't imagine how wide the grin on my face was as I was typing it.
I think I posted quite a few Fate/Alicia pics... somewhere in the Fate Thread... Death_Con too lazy to dig for them
To compliment >>213
>>216 And this naughty one... I hope it's okay to post. lol
No nipples + no genetalia = It's awwwwwwwwwriiiiight
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwright!
Not trying to cause any shitstorms here (this is why I put this in the shoujo-ai thread) but is there anyone who thinks that Fate was Nanoha's first love and Vivio was Nanoha's second?
omitted for possible shitstorman ;_;
I think if Vivio was about 10 years older, she would have been hittin' dat with more than just 5 Starlight Breakers.
Ok, so let's assume that I think the yuri is canon.
I certainly think Nanoha is Fate's first love, for obvious reasons. However, I'm not so sure about Nanoha. I mean, we all know how dense the girl is. She's never shown strong special treatment towards anyone. She treats pretty much everyone the same (in similar contexts, ie, she treated Vita the same way as Fate within the 'we're enemies but let's talk' context).
Vivio however, was the first we see to invoke a strong, emotional response from Nanoha. Specifically, the scene where she actually breaks down crying because Vivio was kidnapped. We had not seen such strong, raw emotion from her ever before. Scenes like Nanoha and Fate's farwell at the end of season one pale in comparison.
I don't think it would be the same if Vivio was older. I think Nanoha's strong response came from her materal side, which, in my opinion, is genetically stronger than romantic attachment.
Regarding Nanoha breaking down into tears, I believe it's because she's become very attach to Vivio in the recent months I'm unsure how long was Vivio with section six before her abduction I think it's partly due that Nanoha is older now and the way she's become so close to the little girl who simply sees Nanoha as her mother seems to have left a pretty deep impression.
So I'm guessing that when Nanoha wasn't there to save Vivio she was pretty torn up, a little girl she thought she'll protect with all her powers was taken from her, by this time I would assume that Nanoha has thought of herself as Vivio's real mother.
But then again on the other hand if any of Nanoha's friend was kidnapped from a place she thought was safe I thought she would pretty much be torn up in a similar way maybe less or worse depending on who it is anyway I think Vivio's love for Nanoha is defiantly a mother/daughter relationship.
>>I think if Vivio was about 10 years older, she would have been hittin' dat with more than just 5 Starlight Breakers.
I'M GOING TO SKIN YOUR SORRY BUTT UNTIL IT'S BECOME BEEF CURD!!!! LMFAO
Sorry couldn't resists.
Anyway on that subject I think the way Vivio and Nanoha acted in Vivid memories two when Vivio is off training while in Saint Kaiser mode pretty much sum it up.
Vivio would probably have become a close friend to Nanoha in a way Fate is to Nanoha I'm omitting all pairing for this post so please don't shoot me to bits!!!
>>221
FYI in the manga between the first and second seasons they show Nanoha, Arisa and Suzuka watching the most recent video-letter from Fate together, the one where, after 6 months, Fate announces she will return very soon. At that moment Nanoha starts crying tears of happiness right in front of her friends.
One of my favorite scenes, if I could find the damned page I would post it.
>>One of my favorite scenes, if I could find the damned page I would post it.
And more teary Nanoha on the next page.
Point taken. It's been awhile since I've read the mangas.
However, my stance doesn't really change. Shedding happy tears over a dear friend's return (a reaction that she could potentially have for any dear friend returning from 'I could go to jail' circumstances), is still a far 'cry' away from Nanoha's BAAAAW-fest over Vivio.
I suppose a comparable situation would be Fate being sucked into the Book of Darkness. I don't recall Nanoha's exact reaction, but she certainly didn't break down crying. But that could have been because she was in the middle of a fight.
Whoah. What have I set off here? xD
>Ok, so let's assume that I think the yuri is canon.
You act like it's not.
j/k, j/k Let me stop. I feel like I'm walking a very shaky tightrope here...
It's fair to say that Nanoha is pretty (conveniently) dense when it comes to her own feelings and she's a friend to all but Fate was just a little bit more special to her. When she met Fate and learned a little bit more about her, it was the first time she felt really passionate about something in her life. (Was it because she got beat up for the first time in her life? lol) Hell, even protecting her city became sort of secondary when Fate came into the picture. (Thank god, right? There isn't enough room for another CCS.)
With her friends at the time, she was very, "They're great and I'm glad I met them but..." but with Fate, she was like, "I just CANNOT leave the person alone!" Her official reason for her interest in Fate was because she couldn't stand seeing her being alone but remember how she and Yuuno talked about being alone? Her reaction to his life story was very different than it was with Fate's. She was sad but it wasn't like she was in a rush to make him the happiest little ferret in the universe. lol To me, this difference shows that aware or not, Nanoha had some VERY strong, protective feelings for Fate.
Now, Vivio... I consider her to be Fate#2 in some sense. A young (blond lol) lonely girl with nobody to take care of her? Nanoha to the rescue! Vivio was the second person Nanoha felt so passionately about. Remember that Nanoha didn't originally intended to become her mother but it just happened that way due to circumstances (Subaru, Vivio crying for "mama" all the time). I suppose the way Nanoha just stepped up to the plate can be considered her maternal side shining through, though I'm personally not convinced and I see something very unnatural about 19 year olds suddenly wanting to be mothers. (I thought that kind of thing doesn't kick in until around 25!) In the manga, they're almost like bros lol but that's because they know each other and Vivio's becoming a mini-Nanoha...
Another thing I wonder... what if Fate wasn't adopted by Lindy? Would Nanoha have had her parents adopt her?
ಥ_ಥ Oh...the possibilities...
>I'M GOING TO SKIN YOUR SORRY BUTT UNTIL IT'S BECOME BEEF CURD!!!! LMFAO
XD You almost made me post that pic with Nanoha doing something impossible ***coughcough*** to Vivio but it's too wrong... XD;
Ehh... Nanoha and Vivio are almost like bros living by the ancient code of ZENRYOKU ZENKAI. I think if Vivio was older, she probably would have had a sort of Subaru-like admiration for Nanoha. But there are a lot of circumstances to consider and it's Vivio so I don't feel like going over them. XD
Nanoha and Fate are more gentle. The manga makes me think of their current relationship to be similar to Yumi and Sachiko for some reason.
Wow. I didn't mean to type this much. Haha I hope it makes sense. :(
>>You act like it's not.
Oh, pardon me. Adjusts yuri goggles I didn't have these on properly.
Ok, what I said was based on what is seen in the show. Obviously all the Nanoha and Fate lovin' happens off screen!
>>Her reaction to his life story was very different than it was with Fate's.
Well, the situations were different, yeah? Yuuno still had the people of his tribe to care for him, and he was a well adjusted kid. Nanoha didn't really need to do anything to help him (aside from collecting the Jewel Seeds). Fate was doing bad things for an epic bitch of a mother, and needed a Starlight Breaker to the face to set her straight.
Anyways, to be perfectly honest, I definitely believe that Nanoha has stronger feelings towards Vivio than she does Fate.
And she has no feelings towards that rodent! He can burn in.... takes off yuri goggles Oops, forgot I had these on!
Protip: That last part was a joke
> Scenes like Nanoha and Fate's farwell at the end of season one pale in comparison.
Well, duh!
At the end of first season, Fate is a "big girl", as old and as powerful as Nanoha, and now fairly level-headed. So, she sees off a girl who can take care of herself, to handle an administrative matter, under the care of friends (Chrono and co.)
In StrikerS, a defenseless little girl (13 years younger) has been abducted by the Big Bad, an organisation that's bad enough to have put strong people (Subaru, Zafira, Vice) in hospital. It's not exactly the same level of angst.
> the scene where she actually breaks down crying
...can also be explained by the lack of sleep. Yeah, I know, it's not overly romantic, but lack of sleep does have a huge influence on the probability of breaking down. And Nanoha did work a lot the previous few days.
(And yeah, in season 1, the Nanoha-Fate scene did take place just after Nanoha woke up from a good night's sleep ;-) )
>>Fate was doing bad things for an epic bitch of a mother, and needed a Starlight Breaker to the face to set her straight.
I think Nanoha simply didn't like to see a girl been lonely, as someone mentioned, because she's been in that position before so she's trying to help out.
too bad Fate mother wasn't on the receiving end of a Starlight Breaker... I take that back it's too nice that attack, I would have preferred the Asura with the Arc-En-Ceil Cannon instead!!! lol one can imagine it... then again what if Nanoha can surpass even THAT!!! ah hell!!!lol
>>Vivio's becoming a mini-Nanoha...
Oh Hell please please please please!!! no more little girls going off befriending people the HARD way in Vivio case she'll knock their sorry lights out with her fist!!! lol
>>Another thing I wonder... what if Fate wasn't adopted by Lindy? Would Nanoha have had her parents adopt her?
I think Fate would probably be adopted... then again I wonder what WILL happen when Nanoha can't control herself get#s toasted by the fans for even suggesting a sweet girl been taken by the White Devil...lol
> no more little girls going off befriending people the HARD way
Don't worry, when Vivio is in "befriending" mode she doesn't look like a little girl.
You forget she's a big girl on the outside but we all know she's a sweet little girl in the inside... (how could a girl be called sweet if she can reduce you to ashes!!! lol)
A girl who can reduce you to ashes is called sweet when she does not reduce you to ashes.
"A gentleman is a man who can play the bagpipe and who does not."
I can see you been the gentleman to Vivio even when she's turn you to ashes... ah well good for you! lol
>Well, the situations were different, yeah?
Fair enough, she did help Yuuno with the jewel seeds and all. She just can't turn away from someone in need. (Does she have a Superman complex or something? >_>;) But even after Fate was taken in by the TSAB, she still had a strong affection for her. (crying when hearing she was coming back, their reunion in A's, etc.)
>Anyways, to be perfectly honest, I definitely believe that Nanoha has stronger feelings towards Vivio than she does Fate.
I don't know if I would consider her feelings towards Vivio to be "stronger" but I would consider them to be more mature. Personally, I think Vivio is filling in some of the voids Fate couldn't fulfill. EVEN THOUGH, I still think teenagers wanting to be mothers (Fate was like what, 16 or 17 when Erio and Caro came in the picture? >_>;) is a bit forced and unnatural...
And (the unfortunately taboo around here lol) Yuuno... She cares about him of course, but he's always been that guy friend when it comes to Nanoha. I think she had more affection for him whenever he was in ferret mode. lol (Poor him, eh?) And that weird moment in Strikers... I hate to say this but I think that too was forced, like the way they made Nanoha and Fate into dedicated teenage mothers and the way they made Subaru a lead (Was I the only one who went 'lolwut' at the 2nd OP?). In fact, all of Strikers felt as canon as Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles (which is still making me lolwut whenever I think about it) but oh look, I'm digressing. --rolls eyes--
Anyway, if Amy didn't get in the way, I think Nanoha and Chrono would have worked out...
>too bad Fate mother wasn't on the receiving end of a Starlight Breaker...
I have the feeling she would have just blocked it and then Thunderstormed Nanoha to a crisp. D: What if Precia didn't die? Oh ho, that would have opened up a whole new field of possibilities but then we wouldn't have our NanoFate because of course, Fate's first love probably was her mo--a garbage truck drives by
>Oh Hell please please please please!!! no more little girls going off befriending people the HARD way
You say this like it's a bad thing! lol
>then again I wonder what WILL happen when Nanoha can't control herself
Oh lord, the awesomeness of the Takamachi family would increase tenfold. We'll have Miyuki and Kyouya, (WINcest but not really WINcest but still WIN), and Nanoha and Fate, the lolnotreally sisters who make you wonder if they're relationship is more than...sisterly--coughcough--, and finally Nanoha's moe dad. (The man is just too moe. You can see where Nanoha gets it from. lol)
I don't know about you but this sounds better than some crippled girl and a dumb book...
Yuuno should have more courage when he's NOT in ferret mode...
>>238
Well, being in ferret mode does help...
I'm half expecting a flame war to start at any moment.
On the subject of the pic Feito posted, I find it kind of strange since it would give the impression of something else if someone was not to watch the show but know that Yunno is a boy, won't you guys agree?
Nanoha/Yunno are so freaking rare it's actually funny, but I still think they make a great couple if there was no NanoaFate.
I'm unsure how to define Yunno feeling and reaction to Nanoha at times, they seem a little bit more close than simply friends at times, but at other times they're simply friends.
Take for example the before Strikers Manga where Yunno and Nanoha high five, quite friendly and so on. Come Strikers in one of the episode those two simply couldn't meet eye to eye without blushing crimson, or the interesting atmosphere they got their also seems to interest me of what could have happened if Nanoha and Yunno was to hook up.
I'm simply ranting here so if you don't like what I'm saying please ignore the post.... Death_con is tied up and is going to be burnt for his heresy... lol
>>239
Especially when there are a bunch of girls around to feel him up and tell him how cute he is, eh?
in b4 Yuuno is a pimp, ferrets, high sex drive, etc.
>give the impression of something else
Uuuuh... I once read this doujin where only one part of Yuuno was human and the rest was ferret but he still a plane flies overhead with Nanoha...
lol I saved it for the hell of it and every time I run across it, I am shocked every time.
To me, it seems that Yuuno does like Nanoha but he has no confidence in himself and/or he doesn't want to mess up their friendship. I kind of feel bad for the guy since Nanoha seems to be deaf, dumb, and blind when it comes to talking about Yuuno anything more than as a human shield. Awfully convenient... I wonder how Nanoha would react if somebody actually told her about Yuuno's feelings directly.
(I'd guess something along the lines of, "I like Yuuno too! He's my childhood friend!" facepalms all over)
>those two simply couldn't meet eye to eye without blushing crimson
Still don't know what the hell that was about. Hence, why I consider it to be very forced. If they're blushing around each other, why couldn't they have had Fate blush when she greeted her "Onii-chan"? drools
>>241
Nanoha and Fate were in permanent blush mode in front of each other during the first and second season, so they should be over that phase now if they are romantically involved. Nanoha didn't see her childhood friend for years when they meet in strikers, so I suppose her reaction was as expected for her character, seeing that she also blushes a lot to other characters (Caro, Teana, etc).
I think they were planing to leave Yuuno and Chrono as a possible romantic interests for Nanoha during the first series, but the unexpected raising popularity of Nanoha and Fate made them change their strategy and make them the main couple, recycling the same formula for Subaru and Teana later.
I feel sorry for Yunno, he has little to no esteem... while Nanoha is the typical lead character which is oblivious to anything relating to romance... give Yunno hanky to blow his nose
Chrono was a possible if not was a romantic pairing in Triangle Hearts I believe. what's the chances of Yunno given some possible romane with Nanoha sees a tank backflipping onto Yunno... something tells me that'll never happen in a billion years... (sigh)
>>243
It would be financial suicide if they were to pair Nanoha or Fate with someone else now, they made of this a major part of the series, and now there is no step back.
>>the way they made Subaru a lead
I liked Subaru as a main character more than Nanoha. I think they handled her secondary main character status quite well. I never felt that she was overshadowed by Nanoha, nor that she stole the spotlight from Nanoha.
>>Nanoha and Fate were in permanent blush mode
Meh, I don't put too much stock into that. This is anime we're talking about here. Characters usually always have pinkness in their cheeks, especially if they're young children.
>>I think they were planing to leave Yuuno and Chrono as a possible romantic interests for Nanoha during the first series, but the unexpected raising popularity of Nanoha and Fate made them change their strategy and make them the main couple, recycling the same formula for Subaru and Teana later.
That's what irks me. If it's one thing I hate and think cheapens a show, it's fan pandering. "Ok, let's throw out what we originally had planned, foregoing any sort of creative integrity we have, and cater to the fans' every whim!" Yeah, it's good for business, but not respect.
We need to get Tomino in here. He doesn't submit to that shit.
I wouldn't describe Nanoha and Fate's relationship as a 'main couple', but it's certainly got enough elements of that to have people drooling for more.
So far as Subaru and Teana go, I could accept that, if only Subaru wasn't that playful with everyone. I certainly don't agree that they 'recycled' Nanoha and Fate for Teana and Subaru. The set ups were completely different.
Course so far as Teana goes, I prefer the sempai/kouhai set up for Teana/Vice. Ah, Vice. You were the only male protagonist other than Erio to actually get some development.
But posting some Subaru/Teana anyways, because I believe in good will.
>If it's one thing I hate and think cheapens a show, it's fan pandering.
With so much HHNNGGGH with the Nanoha and Fate's "happy family", we can't complain.
>I wouldn't describe Nanoha and Fate's relationship as a 'main couple', but it's certainly got enough elements of that to have people drooling for more.
For me Subaru/Teana are the secondary pairing of the series during Strikers, and Nanoha/Fate are above of them in the plot, and in terms of people drooling for more.
I will admit that Seven Arcs handles the fan pandering decently enough. They haven't done any hardcore fan pandering (ie, NanoFate kiss scenes, continually stating Nanoha and Fate are in a lesbian relationship, naming Vivio 'Vivio Testarossa-Harlaown-Takamachi', etc). They're also nice enough to include a little pandering to the minority crowd (the Nanoha and Yuuno scene in ep 8, them being seen together at the end of StrikerS, etc).
They've done it gradually enough where it still makes sense in-universe if they suddenly declared "Yeah, Nanoha and Fate are married! Look forward to the flashback in the next chapter of Vivid!" As opposed to, say, revealing that Regius is actually alive. That wouldn't make sense, since we clearly see him die. Course it's not like Regius actually has fans, but if he did, and Seven Arcs revived him to pander to them, that would be some old bullshit.
... Yes, Fukuda! I am making pot shots at you! You and that damn wife of yours!
Anywho, more yuri.
>They've done it gradually enough where it still makes sense in-universe if they suddenly declared "Yeah, Nanoha and Fate are married! Look forward to the flashback in the next chapter of Vivid!"
I deeply hope that they keep gradually increasing the NanoFate until they reach that point.
While I don't share those hopes, if it does come to pass, I'll live with it.
Course the impending cries of "HAHAHAHA WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG YOU HETFAGS CAN SUCK IT!" will be unbelievably fucking annoying.
We're all so mature, aren't we?
>>249
We already had our little party at /a/ when Vivid 01 came out a month ago, we didn't need to wait to celebrate for CONFIRMED LESBIANISM, and since even hetfags LOEV NanoFate the thread didn't become shit.
I can't read the title or Fate and Yuuno's thought balloon in the third panel, but:
Panel 1
VITA
"~~?! Allies, huh?"
Panel 2
FATE
"..... We're friends...!"
Panel 5
VITA
"Hey... you're... allies... aren't you...?"
He will return wearing sunglasses and a bomber jacket as Regius Bajeena, slap Erio around a little and teach him how to drink and be bad ass. Then Caro will write Erio an Engrishy letter exposing his identity.
>>It would be financial suicide if they were to pair Nanoha or Fate with someone else now, they made of this a major part of the series, and now there is no step back.
Gainax has done this how many times? It just makes their shows more popular.
They could do it if they were deciding to end the series, and it will end eventually, especially with these enormous time skips between seasons. I want to see Magical MILF Lyrical Nanoha as much as the next guy but they can't drag this out until she's 50. Knowing they weren't going to make any more, they could do whatever they wanted to since there would be no need to try to keep people coming back for more.
>>If it's one thing I hate and think cheapens a show, it's fan pandering. "Ok, let's throw out what we originally had planned, foregoing any sort of creative integrity we have, and cater to the fans' every whim!" Yeah, it's good for business, but not respect.
Definitely reminds me of HiME/Otome.
You know what it's really about, though: Keep the women away from men so the Japanese shut-ins can't fly into a jealous rage the way they did with Kannagi. Note that the only female in this show attached to a man is Amy and she was a bit player (Erio and Caro came as a package to begin with and it's not like there's romantic development visible with them either) and was promptly shoved off into the kitchen. Even if you were to pair off a secondary character like Signum or Vita with a man, can you imagine the butthurt? They'd be holding street protests screaming about what a slut she was and burning Figmas.
Actually that would be extremely funny.
Yet again I went and open a hornet's nest... well made it worst in this case.
But still it's quite an interesting debate which hasn't turned sour... yet.
For my part I think the entire NanoFate is OK, with subtle suggestion from Seven Arcs, but they also did some NanoYunno suggestions as well, so I have to give them a hand for feeding both sides even if the NanoFate got a little bit more I'm sure somewhere in Vivid we'll probably get an interesting scene with Nanoha and Yunno, they HAVE to do it since it's been pretty much suggests so many times.
Plus it'll keep the NanoaYunno Fans if there is any beside me happy, but then again I'm reading way too much into this.
Ah well Case close anyone?
>>242
She blushed to Caro and Tia? I didn't catch that. I heard she even blushed at a CD case in Strikers but I didn't see that either. I only remember her blushing at Yuuno. Like someone said about their behavior in the manga, when you see them acting like best friends one minute and then blushing another, it's just weird.
>Nanoha and Fate were in permanent blush mode in front of each other during the first and second season, so they should be over that phase now if they are romantically involved.
It's funny that you mention that because Fate seems to be the only one who hasn't. (And WHY OH WHY couldn't they add a little blush for her Onii-chan?!)
-sigh- I have to admit that when I saw the first season, I was really cheering for Nanoha and Chrono. I didn't think he and Amy would hook up because she looked way older than him. I love NanoFate but I wonder how it would have gone...
>>244
They're milking Nanoha for all it's worth. I'd be surprised if we even get an official spouse/partner for Nanoha at all.
>>245
Sometimes the fanpandering/service is a bit too much. Especially in Strikers. At least the fanservice in the first season was subtle and if one wanted to ignore it, then it was possible. In Strikers, it looked like they were trying to make everyone happy...except the shotacon. I think I was the only one disappointed about not getting to see Erio's naked silhouette. :(
>We already had our little party at /a/
Damn, I missed it. ;_;
>>251
Thanks for the translation.
>especially with these enormous time skips between seasons.
Going from a 6 month time skip to a 10 year time skip to a 5 year time skip was just ridiculous.
Where is my Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha: The Experimental Teenage Years'!
>Keep the women away from men so the Japanese shut-ins can't fly into a jealous rage the way they did with Kannagi.
Something like this would be enough for me to actually cheer for Yuunoha.
>>252
I think the discussion is going well, so far. As long as somebody doesn't come in and start trying to say that Yu-a dog howls-nd Nano-a bunch of noisy kids run by-are actua-a jackhammer starts-on and Na-a motorcycle revvs up-te are on-glass shatters-nds.
Wow, it sure it noisy today. I wonder how they'll present Yuuno in Vivid...
>I prefer the sempai/kouhai set up for Teana/Vice
It Doesnt work, Alto is there for Vice and nothing can change that. Besides, Teana only cares for Subaru.
>>Keep the women away from men so the Japanese shut-ins can't fly into a jealous rage the way they did with Kannagi.
Arg, when I read that deal with Kannagi, I facepalmed big time. "She used to have a boyfriend" = "She's not a virgin"? What the fuck? Am I so oldfashioned to think that it's possible to be in a romantic relationship and not be sexually active?
I can agree to your statement in part, but it kinda raises a different issue. They're kept away from the men, sure, but at the same time they're being put with other women. So the shut ins still can't fantasize about being with their 'waifu' because 'you can't stick your penis in Fate-chan.'
Of course there are some that do think that's ok, since they think the absense of males = 'purity.' I've honestly talked to people who go on about how "pure and beautiful" NanoFate is, and also saying how trying to stick a guy in there ruins that.
That's an unbelievably sexist thing to say.
>>I was really cheering for Nanoha and Chrono. I didn't think he and Amy would hook up because she looked way older than him.
In hindsight, Chrono/Amy makes more sense than Chrono/Nanoha. Chrono was 14 in season one, Amy 16, and Nanoha 9. A 14 year old going out with a 9 year old would be kinda creepy. Could be fine post time skip, though.
>>Chrono was 14 in season one, Amy 16, and Nanoha 9. A 14 year old going out with a 9 year old would be kinda creepy. Could be fine post time skip, though.
Chrono was tiny the first two seasons, though. He didn't look much older than Nanoha.
>I'm sure somewhere in Vivid we'll probably get an interesting scene with Nanoha and Yunno, they HAVE to do it since it's been pretty much suggests so many times.
>Plus it'll keep the NanoaYunno Fans if there is any beside me happy, but then again I'm reading way too much into this.
Their intentions with that character are clear, he only got 2 minutes of screen time in strikers after being someone of high importance for his friend during the previous series. He was purposely shafted due to his low popularity, leaving him with no plot relevance and no chances with Nanoha, instead they put him in the friendship zone supporting Nanoha and Fate in their relationship and family, before removing him from the cast.
The NanoYunno fans in Japan are almost inexistent, that's another reason why they went all the way with NanoFate after Strikers, you just need to see that there are 0 artists supporting pairings with him now, and that the guy isn't even in the list of important persons to NanoFate's family in Vivid.
>Where is my Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha: The Experimental Teenage Years'!
Here: http://kamio.gartlive.com/
>I've honestly talked to people who go on about how "pure and beautiful" NanoFate is, and also saying how trying to stick a guy in there ruins that.
Sticking a what?!
You're missing the point, NanoFate panders to the viewers not only with the "pure and beautiful love that goes beyond gender" thing, but also with "OMG Two Hawt Chicks Making Out!1!!"
Don't forget your pics, guys!
Well, the thing with Yuuno's screen time is that what little he gets has heavy implications (ex, the hardcore blushing in ep 8).
But at any rate, I think it's almost a given that Yuuno will show up in Vivid, since he's Vivio's mentor in the ways of the librarian.
Imagine if Vivio had a crush on him. Oh the rage that would ensue.
>>You're missing the point, NanoFate panders to the viewers not only with the "pure and beautiful love that goes beyond gender" thing, but also with "OMG Two Hawt Chicks Making Out!1!!"
Oh, I know that. I was just refering to the hardcore feminist crowd who think men are dirty and disgusting, and women don't need them because they can have a 'pure' relationship with another woman. I can't stand those kind of people, and the yuri fanbase is full of them. I bet they think that girls don't fart or have sexual urges, either.
>>Don't forget your pics, guys!
I won't! Though admittantly I don't have many actual yuri pics. Lots of doujinshi, though.
>>the guy isn't even in the list of important persons to NanoFate's family in Vivid.
As I pointed out, Yunno was shafted wrongly because of the entire fuss of NanoFate... I feel sorry for Yunno now that he's been cut off completely from the entire cast...
Moving slightly off topic where the hell did the YunnoHayate pairing came into play??
>>Moving slightly off topic where the hell did the YunnoHayate pairing came into play??
That was Satashi's doing.
> They're milking Nanoha for all it's worth
Which is why she had to get older and grow breasts?
> Where is my Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha: The Experimental Teenage Years'!
Maybe it's been done too much in other animes?
> Imagine if Vivio had a crush on him. Oh the rage that would ensue.
What do you think Nanoha made Vivio promise she won't use her teenage form for mischief? She's afraid Vivio will try to use it to seduce Yuuno, obviously!
>"She used to have a boyfriend" = "She's not a virgin"?
The backlash in /a/ was horrible. Every thread either "Nagi is a slut" or "All women are sluts". It's amazing the how these people will twist up reality to suit their own needs...
>Chrono was 14 in season one, Amy 16, and Nanoha 9.
Age be damned! In Sailor Moon, college freshman, Mamoru was dating Junior High School student, Usagi! Plus, I think the way Chrono acting towards Nanoha shows that age doesn't mean a damn thing when MOE is involved!
>>257
Supporting? At the end of Strikers, it looked like he was stuck into more of an Uncle or Sensei role. It's almost as if they're trying to keep him around just in case. He'll probably show up in Vivid in a way that makes us wonder if he was screwing Nanoha while Fate was away at work and Vivio was at school.
Incidentally, why hasn't anyone bothered to make some fanart of Nanoha having a harem end with both Fate and Yuuno? Hayate shouldn't be the only one who gets the harem.
>Here: http://kamio.gartlive.com/
in a Jail-like voice AH SUBARASH--clicks D':...
>>Don't forget your pics, guys!
>I won't! Though admittantly I don't have many actual yuri pics. Lots of doujinshi, though.
Me either! Funnily enough, I don't have many yuri pics either but I do have a lot of DAAAAAAWWW NanoFate! pics.
>I feel sorry for Yunno now that he's been cut off completely from the entire cast...
Wasn't there a Soundstage with Nanoha and Fate going all "AWWW Poor Yuuno, he's completely alienated from the rest of us but he might show up one day"?
Isn't it sad, Yuuno? (It's almost as if we're talking about the nonexistent Satsuki route...)
>Well, the thing with Yuuno's screen time is that what little he gets has heavy implications (ex, the hardcore blushing in ep 8).
Dude, you should take your het googles off every once in a while ;)
If you think like that, then Nanoha should have become a MASSIVE DYKE when after that she met with Arisa and Susuka too, am I right? (but it isn't like she already wasn't one xD)
>But at any rate, I think it's almost a given that Yuuno will show up in Vivid, since he's Vivio's mentor in the ways of the librarian.
It's almost a given that he won't have relevance in the series anymore, they deliberately shafted Yuuno and Arf because they were in they way of Nanoha and Fate.
I don't expect seeing him again, except maybe for a cameo in Vivid, to reaffirm his support to Nanoha and Fate or something.
>What do you think Nanoha made Vivio promise she won't use her teenage form for mischief? She's afraid Vivio will try to use it to seduce Yuuno, obviously!
Awwwwww Nanoha, you're so cute! She doesn't know yet that Vivio is a lesbian too!
This must be what happens when your two mamas are hot as hell and you constantly step on them while they're making out.
>Which is why she had to get older and grow breasts?
It was just too sudden! D': On top of that, Fate and Nanoha's boobs are HUGE. I understand Fate but couldn't they use a little moderation with Nanoha? /rantrant
>Maybe it's been done too much in other animes?
Aww, Nanoha started out as a CCS clone so I'm sure they could have thought of SOMETHING to do with a bunch of magical teenagers.
>Awwwwww Nanoha, you're so cute! She doesn't know yet that Vivio is a lesbian too!
It's alright. That's why Fate had Arf go to the Infinity Library with Yuuno. You know, so she can maul**cough**I mean, protect him in case anything goes "wrong". This is what Arf meant when she said she could protect Fate in "different ways."
> Nanoha, you're so cute! She doesn't know yet that Vivio is a lesbian too!
Yes she knows: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/334989/
(Warning: not remotely safe for work, not remotely tasteful, not even legal in some countries.)
Or maybe Nanoha thinks Vivio's bi?
[Hey, you wanted yuri, you got yuri.]
> Fate and Nanoha's boobs are HUGE.
Not ridiculously so. I mean, they are fairly big, but still human-like, unlike in quite a lot of animes.
> I understand Fate but couldn't they use a little moderation with Nanoha?
Why the different treatment?
>>266
Try with this: http://cjoint.com/data/hcbvGSCnff_ugh.zip
(There's a HTML file that contains the translation.)
Disclaimer again: not remotely safe for work, not remotely tasteful, not even legal in some countries.
Ah hell it's getting out of hand.
For one I doubt the Nanoha/Vivio route would appear (anyone even suggesting that should get their funeral ready when I'm done with them!!!lol)
Anyway we haven't got a solid idea who Vivio will be paired up sigh so let's wait a little longer... who knows it might be Vivio's rival.enemy (again with the enemy/rival turned lover something!!!!!!)
I wonder what would happen if someone suggested Yunno has all three aces all to himself... a nuke just went off and Yunno is seen in the middle of it... oh hell!! lol j/k
It's not like Vivio needs to be paired off with anyone anyways.
>>I wonder what would happen if someone suggested Yunno has all three aces all to himself
Just look at the first image in the Het Thread ;)
>>a nuke just went off and Yunno is seen in the middle of it
Incidentally, I bet Yuuno could survive a nuclear explosion with those barriers of his.
>You need a privileged account to see this image.
Well, that's a first. lol But guessing by the tags and comments, I probably don't need to see it.
>Why the different treatment?
Considering that Fate always looked like a mini-porn star, she's a clone, and even from earth, there wasn't much surprise for me when I saw her well-endowed she was. But I was disappointed that Nanoha body looks just like hers. I hoped they'd remember she's from Japan and they'd give her a more modest body like Hayate but...red hair, blue eyes...what was I thinking? I suppose I should be happy that they didn't get dick-shitting nipples.
Anyway, lolis. ;_;
>>267
YOOOOO--facepalms for a few minutes
I don't even...
And I thought http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/371069/all_fours-ass-blonde_hair-blush-breasts-brown_hair (Explicit. You've been warned.) was bad...
Nothing is off-limits anymroe...
It can't help but always notice how bloody short Hayate is. Well, it's ok since I like short girls. It's easier for them to rest their head on your chest.
Grins stupidly at the fantasy
>>272
If someone asks for yuri, I punish them by giving them what they ask for. Yeah, I know, it's scary.
>>273
Short girl is short.
Tall girl is tall.
Hm, and Yuuno is the same height/a little taller than Fate is. Imagines some Hayate/Yuuno
Ah! Stupid me! Yuri! Yuri! Yes, here's some yuri!
Haha, man, I loved this comic. Incidentally, Kana Ueda voiced both Hazuki (the guy from Kashimashi who gets turned into a girl) and Hayate.
>>279
Is that canon?
My bad, the character's name was Hazumu. Been a loooong time since I saw/read Kashimashi.
>>281
Well, since Chrono is female, why can't Yuuno be?
(Yes, Chrono is a girl. Otherwise, how could he have married Amy in a yuri world?)
Quick, look up, somebody wrote "gullible" on the ceiling.
Technically speaking, females are defined by their reproductive organs >_> Anything with a penis is technically a man, so yeah....
Eh, that just leads into the whole 'sex vs gender' debate, which will indeed get messy.
As far as futa goes, most doujins that use it have the girls grow them over night/instantly/whatever, so they were female first. Plus, they usually keep the vagina, too.
So yeah, I say futa is yuri. It's still two or more girls going at it. It's merely more 'genuine' than using a strap-on.
>>247
ugh, that reminds me to finish re-editing/translating the script of that.
maybe, if I posted the script and RAW of that doujin here, maybe someone would be kind enough to edit the translation in~
Ooops forgot to tag my name sees the billions of angry fans oh shi....
possible with Nanoha and Hayate... Fate on the other hands is another thing altogether... don't even mention about Vivio in Saint Kaiser mode!!! lol
Is it me or do Nanoha and Vivio in Saint Kaiser mode is nearly the same height in Vivid????
I believe Fate is a little taller than most girls should be, Nanoha just about right height for a "normal" girl while Hayate is... I'm not too sure about her... maybe the Book of Darkness not only cause her to not be able to walk but also stunted her growth???
Anything related to Futa is definitely going to get messy either way so let#s try and avoid it as much as possible as this will soon turn into a right old bitchin war of whose right and whose wrong
I'm taking in account that we'll have two anon coming and starting it for the hell of it... sigh
Looks like I replied/joked most of the major bits in this thread... still haven't got a picture worthy of posting yet... damn it!
>>288
I'll try not to say too much but I've seen a couple where the penis grows where the clitoris is supposed to be. It actually makes more sense considering-a Starlight Breaker blasts over my shoulder ...◔ヮ◔;
>>290
No love for tall girls? D': Fate is perfect for hugs! Well, she looks perfectly huggable...
;_;
Even though...I did find Fate's family pic where she looks like she's almost taller than Chrono to be kind of creepy... I wonder if she had a growth spurt one day and everyone went, 'Σ(゜д゜;)!! Dekkai!' Chrono probably cried on the inside because his cute "little sister" got big...
>maybe the Book of Darkness not only cause her to not be able to walk but also stunted her growth???
Probably. She couldn't use her legs for nearly all her life, I think... Maybe her muscles were stunted in the process... Even though I wonder if that should matter since all of that happened before puberty. Eh, or maybe in was in her genes to be the short girl.
>I'm taking in account that we'll have two anon coming and starting it for the hell of it... sigh
You've noticed that too, eh?
Fate is all too Huggable... damn it she's quite the opposite and BEGS to be hugged... especially in her cat suit... Nanoha included... Hayate don't need a hug she needs someone to sweep her off her feet!!! Which is possible since she smaller and lighter!!!lol
Hm? That whole doujin is already translated. Or are you talking about doing Lyrical Magical Teana Ganbaru?
Whatever the case, I have some experience with editing, so I wouldn't mind doing it. Won't be anything fancy, though.
>>Is it me or do Nanoha and Vivio in Saint Kaiser mode is nearly the same height in Vivid????
Vivio mentions that she's actually taller than Nanoha in Saint Kaiser mode.
>>maybe the Book of Darkness not only cause her to not be able to walk but also stunted her growth???
That's what I always used as an explanation. Hayate's the one who contributed to the other girls' 'bust ups' with her 'skinship', but unfortunately for her, there was no one to help with her chest. I'd gladly lend my services, but I actually prefer smaller breasts.
>>I'm taking in account that we'll have two anon coming and starting it for the hell of it... sigh
Oh shi~ I hope I'm not one of the anons you're talking about. Hm, I've been around here long enough, perhaps it's time to commit to becoming a namefag. Though that could be dangerous since I hold an unpopular opinion... Ah screw it, I'll go for it. Now you'll have a name for this heretic!
Yes, Feito-chan is mai waifu, I am copying you :P
>>Even though...I did find Fate's family pic where she looks like she's almost taller than Chrono to be kind of creepy...
Well, Fate has always been rather mature for her age. It's never surprised me that she's so big all around. In Chrono's case, he's a late bloomer. Guy didn't even hit puberty until he was 15.
>[Chrono] didn't even hit puberty until he was 15.
Yeah, I was fairly surprised to learn there was a two year age difference between him and Amy. I thought the difference was nearer to 10 years ~_~
>>Oh shi~ I hope I'm not one of the anons you're talking about.
well I wasn't refering to all anon but it just so hard to tell whose who so it's kind of confusing who would be who when anon are talking...
Damn it again I've got to keep my tag name there or else I won't be seen... sees snipers surrounding me... oh shi---
>>291
The thing is, I'm the original translator, and I find that the translation quality is not sufficent in regards to my current standards.
Oh, and I'm supposed to get around to translating Lyrical Magical Teana Ganbaru too.
>>292
I get the feeling that rather than sweeping Hayate off her feet, it's more natural to be kneeling at them...
>>293
Is it? Then I'm missing some pages. I found a random download somewhere online and as I was reading it, it seemed to end rather abruptly. Oh I'll check again one of these days...
>It's never surprised me that she's so big all around.
She had to get SOMETHING from her mother... ;3 Speaking of which, I'd love to see Alicia's father...
btw, welcome to namefaggotry. ;)
Ah yes cute Fate as she tries to get everyone to try and act normal... only to join moments later... ah well you know the old saying, if you can't beat them join them! lol
>Ah yes cute Fate as she tries to get everyone to try and act normal...
That was weird. I mean, she's known Nanoha for ten years, so she shouldn't have been surprised.
>>300
Well...forced moeness... Since it's Fate, there's no problem... coughcoughcough
I guess for some reason she forgot she wasn't on earth and thought it was going to be some kind of quiet picnic or something. Pssh... The thing I thought was weird was that a 19 year old with her body type making "HAYY STOP IT YOU GAIZ!!11! >_<!!" gestures.
Adorable for 9 year old Fate.
Borderline creepy for 19 year Fate.
But I still daaaawww'd and took multiple SS...sigh
>>Adorable for 9 year old Fate.
Borderline creepy for 19 year Fate.
But I still daaaawww'd and took multiple SS...sigh
As I said it's still cute no matter if she's a teenager with a hot body!!!
Yet another cute-but-NSFW image: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/478801
>>302
-sigh-
lol guess I went a little far with the joke at times.
Anyway it seems that images have been slow coming in of late... ah well.
What happened to nanofate.net? The website is down.
I to would like to know, it went down with no word from the owners.
> "the person in charge forgot to renew the hosting domain."
Seems to happen a lot. Which is weird, since registrars usually do their best to remind you to give them money.
Is this allowed here? I see nipples but the image isn't sexual at all.
>>310
Nipples? What nipples? I see no nipples? >.>;
This is one of those pics that makes you tilt your head to see the rest of it, depending on your screen. Pretty cool effect there.
>>310
This is one of those pics that makes you go Daaaaaaaawwww
It should be our new header!
I'm probably being a bit hypocritical but I have to stick to the no nudity rule for now. It's relatively straightforward compared to determining if something is sexual or not. Granted this place isn't truly worksafe (in fact, if any of your non-anime watching friends knew about it you'd probably be permanently forsaken) and there are plenty of over sexualized images that might as well just be nude, I have to draw a line in the sand somewhere.
If someone familiar with the Kareha source code and wants to write me up a patch that adds a spoiler/NSFW image checkbox to the post form I'll gladly accept it.
>>I was expecting something romantic, but at least the art was good in the story was kinda cute.
Well, I fapped. That's all I care about =/
>>320
I like to imagine what they're saying to each other during bouts of futa sex is romantic...
Ok, yuri fans. With all the drama around here, a question keeps nagging at me.
Hypothetically speaking, if there was no implications of yuri in the series, would you still watch it? Sometimes I get the feeling a lot of people think the yuri is the only redeeming quality of the show. What about the characters, the storyline, or the epic magic battles? If, and I say IF, Seven Arcs suddenly declared "Oh, by the way, they're actually not gay!" would you rage and boycott the series?
>>323
people don't stop being gay that way, it's not like a disease.
>>323
Fuck. Off.
Don't start that shit in this thread too.
>IF, Seven Arcs suddenly declared
That won't happen.
But, if that happened, the result would be:
>>322
I'd never have thought I'd read "futa" and "romantic" in the same sentence.
>>324
"I don't like girls or boys, I like YOU"
They don't need to like girls to be in love, sometimes this happens. They practically fell for each other when they were 9, before they even knew what sexuality was, and they have been together since then.
>>323
I liked it before I picked up on and kind of yuri subtexts. Now if you asked me the same question about Nanoha's beamspamman...
Eh... Seven Arcs did a good job making all of the heroines workaholics. I'd actually like it if the show was less shounen and more focused on relationships but...then that would probably be the end of it all.
And I'm not only talking about the show either. See >>326 for details. lol
Seems some have taken my question incorrectly. I was simply asking if people thought that the yuri was the only reason to watch Nanoha.
For me before the Yuri was even mentioned I found it quite enjoyable Started with Strikers and liked the character development in it, sure it was slow as hell but I still liked it.
>>330
I love that artist.
I found this image with Nanoha and Fate wearing Vivid's clothes.
I'm just picking random stuff out of the Extra folder from the [NanoFate] releases I have.
>>332
There needs to be more art with their Vivid clothes. The way they drew the girls in old ladies' clothes in the StrikerS promo art and ED was just wrong! As if the uniforms weren't bad enough...at least for those who don't have a uniform fetish...
>>335
I found a new one.
Poor Hayate. Always getting left out.
Don't know what's happening there but why do I feel like Nanoha said something along the lines, "sorry Fate-chan but I'll have to get my leash for you, after all I'm the dominating one of the two."
The only thing Nanoha said is "Ehehe, Fate-chan."
That explains a lot.
Well, for some reason, I had the almost finished, revised script of Subaru Ganbaru, so I completed it and did a quick check-up on the translation.
I recommend getting the script edited to better English, either by yourself or through one of your contacts/friends.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b3e51ab69af2e6db19747bd91027d4dd9d8332b5cd3f4a27
Folder has both RAW and script.
Good luck~
Nanoha is kind of loose... let's pray she don't get her hands on the numbers afterwards... then again I'm more worried about Vivio than Fate Fate probably WANTS that kind of love...
>>356
Fate will get it whether she wants it or not. With the White Devil as her lover she has no choice.
Any word on NanoFate.net?
>>355
I haven't got that so thank you.
Does anyone knows who will translate the Ganbaru Teana?
>>359
According to nanofate.tk:
The site should be back by the end of the month.
Please be patient.
Now in english: http://www.tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=232630
>>361
Ah, thank you. I hope it comes back with new doujins.
>>371
Looking kind of PIMP there, Fate.
Oh yes, with that 'come hither' look too... She's begging me to join her harem! I shall answer her call!
Jumps in, Lupin style
>>383
Caption: "Note: They're not panties. They're barrier jackets."
Author (in case you didn't recognize): Narutaki Shin http://narushin.sakura.ne.jp/
Putting this where it belongs
Once again, putting something where it belongs.
>>389
Is it me or are there quite a few fanarts with Fate holding a mug? A warm drink for a warm girl or are the artists subtly demanding that Fate gets a loooooooong vacation (with Nanoha & Vivio)?
Maybe OR Nanoha simply gives Fate mugs of coffee containing Nanoha's secret "ingredient" for the blonde enforcer... lol
I know people are going to take this the wrong way, but I assure you, I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to start a civil, constructive discussion.
Ok, so I'm not too fond of NanoFate. Why? Is it because I'm a fan of the ferret? Not at all. The main reason is that I find NanoFate to be very boring. I mean, where's the drama? Where's the awkwardness? They never argue, and they do stuff like change in front of each other, but there's zero reaction. There's no desire in their eyes when they look at each other. Where's that spark?
I know some people say how they're in a 'mature adult relationship', whatever that's supposed to be, but I think that's BS. I mean, my parents are in their 50s, they've been married for 25 years, and they still give each other little kisses before they leave, and they're still active sexually. The period when relationships lose that sexual attractedness (which NanoFate seems to imply) is when the couple is old and wrinkled.
For Nanoha and Fate not to show the slightest bit of desire for each other when they're only in their 20's... I'm sorry, but I dare say they're on the path to break-up-ville.
Naturally I'm only considering what's shown on screen. They could be screwing like rabbits off screen, but I can't be entertained by what is not shown. I mean, all it would take would be something like a little jealous look on Fate's face when she sees Nanoha and Yuuno together to add an interesting dynamic to things.
TL;DR, I don't like NanoFate not because I have anything against yuri, I just think this particular pairing is uninteresting.
My prefered alternatives? I think Subaru/Teana is a lot better. Seeing Subaru being her playful self, and then Teana getting all flustered over it is quite entertaining. It has that spark. And then the times Subaru doubts herself, Teana is right there to smack her upside the head and tell her to knock it off. Where as Nanoha and Fate are more on the similar side, Subaru and Teana offers a good contrast.
In that vein, I think Nanoha/Vita would be much more interesting. What with Nanoha being so dense, and then Vita getting all aggrivated when she can't get through to her.
Sure, problem free relationships might be ideal if you're the one in said relationship, but in regards to entertainment media (which, obviously, Nanoha is), conflict is necessary.
And that's my opinion. So, what do you think? What do you find appealing about NanoFate that I might be missing? Are there other yuri pairings you like more? Do you perhaps agree with me? Please, feel free to share.
>I mean, all it would take would be something like a little jealous look on Fate's face when she sees Nanoha and Yuuno together to add an interesting dynamic to things.
He supports their relationship, and Nanoha and Fate trust each other more than anyone else. When you have this kind of relationship there is no place for feelings like jealousy which is associated with a lack of trust.
Also, Yuuno and Arf are the last persons they should doubt.
>Naturally I'm only considering what's shown on screen. They could be screwing like rabbits off screen, but I can't be entertained by what is not shown.
NanoFate isn't supposed to be dramatic or romantic on screen, it's supposed to be cute, that's why it's such a huge success in Japan, like all the moe anime that we're getting lately. If you want drama, romance, or sex, we have hundreds of doujinshis and fanfics showing us what we don't see on screen. Some of them are real masterpieces better than the original series.
>My prefered alternatives? I think Subaru/Teana is a lot better
They act like teenagers, I have seen enough of this romance already, that's why I don't like them, but Nanoha and Fate's adult relationship and seeing them with Vivio is totally delighting for me.
>>398
The one thing everyone has to get over is that the show is about their adventures not they relationship. Kissing, hugging, sex is not the main point of the show. Hell, most couples don't go around kissing and hugging every 10 min in public in real life anyway.
>The period when relationships lose that sexual attractedness (which NanoFate seems to imply) is when the couple is old and wrinkled.
Making love for 3 hours every night hardly implied that. Yeah, they can't show that in screen, but even the seiyuus joked about those 3 hours that Nanoha and Fate reserved for each other before going to sleep. That's the most we'll ever get from this series about their sexual life, for everything else go read fics.
>So, what do you think? What do you find appealing about NanoFate that I might be missing?
To be honest, I'm not sure.
I just know that yuri is boring and that I don't like romance in anime either, but I fell in love with this pairing.
Two years ago I never thought that today I would be reading yuri fanfiction, but Nanoha, Fate and Vivio did that to me.
> Two years ago I never thought that today I would be reading yuri fanfiction, but Nanoha, Fate and Vivio did that to me.
So, it's official, they're having threesome sex?
>>396
Sooooooo THAT'S the reason why Fate is so cheerful all the time!
>>398
>>400
Oh, Jesus Christ on a flaming stick. This is like people arguing over Pepsi and Coke.
Well, at least it's in the right thread.
>Making love for 3 hours every night
lmao I think I have a doujin like that. Nanoha magicks herself a penis. =O
>>401
The only yuri I look at is NanoFate.
>and Vivio.
Oho...
>>402
In the official version they're just a traditional lesbian family with a daughter, but when it comes to doujins the limit is the sky:
http://maniax.dlsite.com/work/=/product_id/RJ046161.html
>>a traditional lesbian family
Isn't this statement oxymoronic? I mean, homosexual families are still considered unorthodox by society. Indeed, they're still fighting for their unions to be recognised.
So what exactly constitutes a 'traditional lesbian family' and how does it differ from your garden variety heterosexual family?
That can be had on 4chan right now. Somebody bought it. Check /u/.
More like how she got the energy to carry on for the day... that's when the magic drink finish and the real "mission" begins... lol
Why not simply say family, it could refer to anything from lesbian/gay/normal and anything inbetween
sees everyone giving me the dirty looks..lol
Anyway the dsicussion that's been taking place is constructive and interesting, so please don't start slagging each other off, then it'll get boring.
>>405
I think the point is that normally families don't have sex with their children.
>>401
Same here, this is a mystery of the universe.
Have some happy family.
A family is a family.
And this family is cute to boot... pouting Vivio is comforted by Fate... now if nanoha was to find out Fate is going to be "punished"... lol
Well, it's time for Comiket, and you know what that means: tons of new fap material will be pouring in.
Here's a yuri doujinshi involving Nanoha and...... Haruhi Suzumiya.
Unholy union or match made in heaven? You decide.
>>418
Not even God can beat the White Devil... Still...weeeeeird...
In other news, NanoFate.net is back under http://nanofate.us/ in case somebody hasn't heard yet.
The While Devil will white you out! Mortal, Immortal, Divine, Damned, Devil and even Gods!!
Might as well upload all these while I'm at it.
>>417
Fate as a delicious shota? Uuuuhhh...I think I want... Actually, yes. I do want shota Fate. Btw, it might be just me since I like to see my favorite characters everywhere but is that pic supposed to be a parody of Sakura and Syaoran?
I think you're right, it do bare some similarity to those two in some way... maybe the creator did it on purpose?
>>425
Now that I saw what it was when translated my blood boiled...
Does anyone have (NWS):
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=556838
That looks awasm! i am now activtaly looking for it.
New doujin fresh from NanoFate dot... whatever it is now.
http://www.mediafire.com/?jnxyjztjgxn
Remember what I said about NanoFate being boring before? This is the kind of thing that makes it even the slightest more enjoyable.
Yuri aside, this was highly enjoyable for Signum and Vita's antics, and various White Devil moments.
>>431
NanoFate is back with a delicious doujin! I love this artist. Nanoha and Fate are so sweet together.
And the end with Vivo was great xD
Their new web is www.nanofate.us, in the front page I found two other NanoFate doujins that I haven't seen before.
They're not so much doujins as they are just little comic pages.
... But that's hardly relevant anyways.
>>431
This was (and still is) one of my favorite doujins. Nanoha's face at the Vita Merry Go Round was classic.
I know what you mean, Fate try so hard to stop Nanoha worrying... then again Fate is the worry wart so why isn't she worried about what Vita is doing to Vivio!!!
>>435
Fanservice+awesome>>>Inconsistency and OoC portrayals lol XD
Not only that, I was wondering why Nanoha didn't get angry at Vivio for doing something so dangerous. If Nanoha overlooked all the dangerous things Vivio did, Vivio'd become such a brat.
Also, jealousy. Does Fate have such an emotion?
And having sexytime right next to a sleeping child? Hmm, talk about mental scarring...
But then again, it's moe so who cares? XD
> And having sexytime right next to a sleeping child? Hmm, talk about mental scarring...
Yeah, poor Vivio. At least they could wake her up so that she can see and learn.
I think Vivio is already broken, she's probably seen it happen so many time she's probably think it's normal for kids parents to do that...
Then again I think she's pretty much fine, given that she's probably aware of those things since she still retain her memories of her previous incarnation.... OK why do I feel like someone's going to shoot me...
Anyway, maybe she can have sex already, at least in her adult form.
>Yeah, poor Vivio. At least they could wake her up so that she can see and learn.
>I think Vivio is already broken, she's probably seen it happen so many time
>she's probably aware of those things since she still retain her memories of her previous incarnation
>maybe she can have sex already, at least in her adult form.
>>439
With who? Einhart Stratos (or those 2 girls from her class) look like they would make a good wifes for Vivio... BTW is there any more information on Einhart?
Another release by NanoFate.us
http://www.mediafire.com/?yhidihlezyo
Cute, but they missed a word bubble here.
Old doujin (Loli HayatexSignum) NSFW
More stuff from NanoFate.us:
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st Drama CDs
http://www.mediafire.com/?lmmmcjmzm1d (N Side)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ohnknatdqqg (F Side)
According to Nina Wolken, there' s a lot of "Takamachi family" (Nanoha, Vivio, AND Fate) going on and a confirmation that there is NOTHING going on between Nanoha and Yuuno. Then again, this is from NanoFate.us so if you understand Japanese, you can judge for yourself. lol
I haven't listened to it yet so time for SQUEE! >_<
Here's a Nice worksafe Hayate/Vita doujin:
http://rapidshare.com/files/146943266/_GiB__Nanoha_Vita_no_Kimochi.zip
Randomly clicked through it a bit and picked up a few things:
Nanoha and Fate were the ones who picked out Yuuno's glasses.
I guess Chrono and Rossa have been friends for a very long time.
Chrono talks about Nanoha and Yuuno's relationship, and Yuuno replies that they're childhood friends and that it's the same for Chrono and Fate. But Chrono reminds him that he and Fate are siblings. Yuuno still insists that they're just childhood friends (but his voice trails off a bit). Chrono says that to Nanoha, Yuuno is more than that. The one who introduced her to magic, who taught her how to use it, her pet ferret, etc. Yuuno tries to correct him on the ferret thing, but Chrono replies "Weren't you a ferret that evolved into a human?" At this point, Yuuno gives up.
Vivio and her friends constantly show up to hang out at the Infinite Library. They have lots of fun there. Yuuno notes how Vivio is a lot like Nanoha in many ways.
So yeah, Nanoha and Yuuno are indeed just in the friendship phase. I'd say more, but I remember that I'm in the shoujo-ai thread here. So... have a picture!
>More stuff from NanoFate.us:
>Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st Drama CDs
Wow.
Just... wow..
I wonder how the trolls will react to this. I bet they'll claim that this sound stage isn't canon 'cause it has "movie" in the title. Just like they did with Vivid lol.
>and a confirmation that there is NOTHING going on between Nanoha and Yuuno
You shouldn't be surprised, this is nothing new, the fact was known from the interviews from long ago, they left Yuuno as a supportive figure for the family since Nanoha x Fate proved to be what the fans want, and now we see from his own point of view how he sees Nanoha in the present: as a little sister. In this track he calls Vivio his friend, and he puts Fate in a similar position to Nanoha.
Also NanohaxFate+Vivio were already known as the Takamachi family, nothing new there either.
>So yeah, Nanoha and Yuuno are indeed just in the friendship phase
Are you implying that someday Nanoha will leave Fate and Vivio to go with Yuuno? If so, you're doing it right, bro.
>>452
Here's the link to the original summary by the way:
http://nanofate.us/content/magical-girl-lyrical-nanoha-movie-1st-drama-cds
>452
>I wonder how the trolls will react to this
Too late, Hayate's huzbando is already here.
>So yeah, Nanoha and Yuuno are indeed just in the friendship phase.
>just in the friendship phase.
>phase
So quick to fly off the handle, oi. Try to think of other interpretations before you do so. Perhaps after the friendship phase comes the 'used to be friends but have grown apart due to the passage of time' phase.
Yuri goggles on
But yeah, Chrono is an idiot. So is Yuuno. They shouldn't have even had that conversation! Yuuno should have said "It doesn't matter what our relationship is because Nanoha and Fate are together!" Silly boys. They know the truth! Post more NanoFate! Wooooooo!
Now I'm getting into the spirit of things!
This image is NSFW, but damn is it beautiful. I had to share:
>>456
You're the only one capable of turning a track confirming that Yuuno doesn't have any romantic feelings for Nanoha, into "the're friends... but just for now!". And it's fun how you're completely ignoring the NanoFate fest we got in the rest of the drama cd.
I know you're trolling, but I still hate you.
>Yuri goggles on
Your Yuri goggles are not required, they'll just get lens flare.
This was just posted on 4chan /u/. New NanoFate doujin!!!
(C76) [EINSATZ GRUPPE] AH! MY FATE CHAN
A rather odd NanoFate doujin? Hayate tries to make a yuri movie with Nanoha and Fate.
NSFW
http://rapidshare.com/files/270376138/AH__MY_FATECHAN__NanoFate__Yuri__NSFW_.zip
or
>>confirming that Yuuno doesn't have any romantic feelings for Nanoha, into "the're friends... but just for now!"
See, I'm not the only one who interprets things to fit their viewpoint. How do you figure it confirms he doesn't have any romantic feelings for her? Yes, he said they were just childhood friends, but listen to the way he said it. It's highly possible that he'd like their relationship to be more. Will it ever be more? Well, since I have my yuri goggles on, I have to say NO IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE NANOHA IS WITH FATE!
So yeah. Calling it a 'phase' is apt. All reltionships go through phases. The "first meeting" phase, the "getting to know each other" phase, the "acquantence" phase, the "friend" phase, the "close friend" phase, the "more than friends" phase, the "romantic" phase, etc etc. Nanoha and Yuuno are in the "close friend phase" while Nanoha and Fate are in the "romantic" phase (or beyond that).
In short, I am 'agreeing' with you, so we have no need to argue!
The main problem is that you're under the mistaken impression that I'm a troll, and therefore 100% of what I say is for the purpose of pissing you off. You must overcome this prejudice. If I was trolling, I'd at least try to make it funny.
Troll switch on!
Hey guys! Big news! I've just found 100% legitimate confirmation that NanoFate is canon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
Break out the drinks!
Troll switch off!
Also, if I was a troll, I sure as hell wouldn't post NanoFate pictures for you.
>How do you figure it confirms he doesn't have any romantic feelings for her?
You don't need to "figure" anything, it's directly stated by him. And this isn't the first time he does that, is it?
He was shafted from the series, you can't take him seriously anymore; Yuuno's route was a mistake, a mistake that was fixed taking this kind of actions. They insist in putting him in his place, but you're just turning a deaf ear.
>since I have my yuri goggles on, I have to say NO IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE NANOHA IS WITH FATE!
No, you don't need yuri googles to see that Nanoha is with Fate. You're plainly trolling.
>It's highly possible that he'd like their relationship to be more
That's highly unprovable seeing how he shows his unconditional support to Nanoha and Fate, their family, and their relationship. The same friends that he sees as imoutos now.
Yuuno is a nice guy who helps his friends, please don't make him look like a bad guy willing to break a family, we've enough Yuuno bashing already.
>>it's directly stated by him
>>he shows his unconditional support to Nanoha and Fate
>>Yuuno is a nice guy who helps his friends, please don't make him look like a bad guy willing to break a family
And how does that make it impossible for Yuuno to be in love with Nanoha? He could simply be hiding his feelings so he won't cause problems for Nanoha and Fate. It's admirable. Still sucks to be him, though.
>>you don't need yuri googles to see that Nanoha is with Fate
Well yes, I do need them. Because in my normal vision (aka objective-vision), I see 'maybe they are together, maybe they're not.' For the purpose of this thread, I have to think only in terms of 'they are together.'
Stop being so hung up on Nanoha and Fate, anyways. Hayate is clearly superior.
Hi Hayate's huzbando,
Yuri goggles are formed from "reading comprehension" and, clearly, someone who does not know how to write two coherent sentences does not have that.
Greetings
I mean seriously! Nobody talks about Hayate and her happy family! No one ever points out how her and Vita shared a bed in A's! What gives?
Or how about Hayate and her 'onee-sama'?
>Because in my normal vision (aka troll-vision), I see 'maybe they are together, maybe they're not.'
fixed
Okay, seriously? Let it go. It's not worth it. You might as well be hitting your head against a brick wall.
>>Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st Drama CDs
I went 'lolwut' to the title when I first saw it. It's almost as if they're implying the movie makes NanoFate canon... Or perhaps they just want people to BUY MORE DVDS.
>he sees Nanoha in the present: as a little sister.
Even I don't think that makes any sense. Just like how Chrono only sees Fate as a little sister. HAAH?! If I were Chrono and Fate was MY LITTLE SISTER NOT RELATED BY BLOOD, I'd go to her room every night and---is stabbed in the neck with a mysterious syringe that came out of nowhere-
>>465
~uguu
>>477
Fate looks like Arashi from Natsu no Arashi (except the hair color of course).
>>474
Trolling Nanoha is harder now. We should get used to it.
walks out carrying Feito-chan is mai waifu out to the dumpster truck and drive off to find the next poor mislead fans... lol
>>Yuuno is a nice guy who helps his friends, please don't make him look like a bad guy willing to break a family, we've enough Yuuno bashing already.
Gotta agree with that, I see Yunno been the nicest guy that would bend backwards for Nanoha, out of pure love let's not even debate what kind of love here OK! aka sister/brother love or something else! just for her.
Plus since he's gotten to know Fate it COULD be that he's handing Nanoha to Fate because they love each other... of course this is PURE speculations with a lot of IFs so please don't read too much into it.
Still I would be happy if they develop more on Nanoha/Yunno together, as in how good of a friend are they, the first and second season kind of hinted at something recall the conversation back in series one on the Asura between Nano/Yunno! I would like a few more moments of those so I can see how good of a friends they are, hell I want them to show us how good of friends they are in strikers even!!!
But enogh of this mad dogs barking and let's return back to the usual shoujou talk pushes my rants into a chasm so no one can complain.
>>Yuri goggles on
You haven't got Nano approved Yuri goggles mate, if you want a pair you'll need to stand still for a moment as I put them onto you and calibrate them for you THEN let Nanoha shoot you, if you see Yrui perfectly well after she shot you then you may leave... other wise she'll continue to shoot you until you can finally see Yuri! lol
Well, I see the potential for yuri. I hope that much will spare me a few blasts ;)
But man, all this shit really sucks the fun out of everything. I need something that's not bogged down with all this drama. Hm... I am behind on Shugo Chara. I think that'll do the trick.
>Well, I see the potential for yuri.
Just potential?
LOL
Then you skipped half the official material of this series.
Or you're just a furfag in denial.
Maybe both!
Well, I've explained myself before, but naturally people on the internet would never consider that some one else's interpretations are valid. You'll never survive in the real world if you're so close minded. The anons here, anyways. I like our namefags. They have proven to be reasonable people.
Moving on, NanoFate.us has certainly been making up for lost time. They've released yet another doujinshi:
>I like our namefags. They have proven to be reasonable people.
"The most emblematic Nanoha troll calling himself a reasonable person"
At least you posted an awesome doujinshi.
I was talking about the other namefags.
Anyways, I don't need you or anyone else defaming my name. I do a good enough job of that myself!
>>At least you posted an awesome doujinshi
You're welcome. I'm all about sharing, even if it's with people who hate my guts ;)
This is a pretty sweet Doujin, but they took the ferret bashing to a new low... I'll leave it at that.
>>483
Well, that's one I've never seen before. I love the art. It's adorable. And that kiss... (0///0)
Aliens vs Scrya. I think I'd like that too. Huhu..
Might be a dumb question but is this pic shopped? Anyone have the original?
>>488
Could be. And the original would be this.
Interesting...Ohh Ix, when will you wake u--
gets shot by Tia
>Dohoho! Somebody worked hard on that!
Yep, one of the best shops I've seen. I even thought it was an official pic.
>>496
I wouldn't have doubted it if it weren't for the weird inconsistencies like no Hayate or Erio to be found, Teana being as tall as Signum, Signum putting her hand on Vita's head and Vita being okay with it. lol Plus, (I hate to say it) Nanoha and Fate holding hands and their hands look kind of K-On dodgy.
I had spent a good 10 minutes staring at that pic wondering why I couldn't bring myself to save it. lol
By the way, where is Fate keeping Bardiche? :3
Mother of christ, I didn't even notice Vice or Shari. I guess I was paying too much attention to Nanoha and Subaru's strategic device placement.
>Soundstage X
AND Nanoha Vivid.
NanoFate.us has released a new doujin: http://www.nanofate.us/content/no-place-home-addicted-you
Whoo, something with both Shari and Hayate in it. Awesome.
The art is rather nice, but at a few points there were too many speech bubbles and it was a bit difficult to follow who was saying what.
Some Teana/Subaru for a change is nice. Like I said before, I think they're far more interesting a couple than NanoFate. NanoFate is fine for some empty fluff, but for the love of God, somebody throw a pie!
The way Fate acts in Addicted to You is a decent pie, however out of character it might be.
Anyways, I give both these doujins thumbs up.
>>508
Stupid Fate is stupid. D:
I'm not quite sure who was saying what either but it was cute.
Hayate trollan as usual. I'm kind of disappointed she didn't grope anyone.
Heh funny I read this sometime ago and forgot about it... anyway you gotta love how devoted Fate is to Nanoha's bo... health! lol
NSFW
NAISHO way!
NanohaxSubaru
Circle: Lezmoe!
http://rapidshare.com/files/274161897/NAISHO_way__Nanoha_SubaruNanoha__Yuri__Lezmoe_.zip
I love SubaIx! I wish there was more to them than in Sound Stage X.
Can only hope in vivid that she'll wake up (Teana watch out!) LOL
NSFW
I fully committed to her in a dirty Fate [HQ]
Various yuri parings.
Circle: Lezmoe!
NSFW
Unknown Title
NanohaxFatexVivio
Circle: Lezmoe!
http://rapidshare.com/files/274442255/VivioxNanoxFate1__HQ___Nanoha__Yuri__Lezmoe_.zip
To be honest, I really don't like the art. It doesn't arouse me at all.
... But they just had to put Hayate in there. Curses! My one weakness!
... I wonder if NanoFate fans would be fine with Nanoha/Fate/Hayate...
Now this doujin (NSFW of course) here is one of my favourites. It's futa, but not really.
http://www.tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=198098
Torrent cuz I'm too lazy to upload it myself right now.
>>517
I just like yuri.
That wouldn't be yuri so much as masterbation, wouldn't it?
So basically, any pic containing two girls is called "yuri"? O_O
For the context of this thread any picture of two girls could potentially be interpreted as yuri. You do have stuff like >>523 that you'd have to say "Oh yeah, that's yuri." But there's also stuff like the attached image. One could interpret that as "Oh, one friend is carrying the other" or "Oh, one girl is carrying her lover."
Well, I suppose any pic with at least two people could be interpreted as yuri. If one (or both) is male, he can easily become a girl -- that's quite common in anime.
>>524
Nanoha and Fate are a couple. The strong emotional connection between them is always present in their pics, you don't need to see physical affection to take a pic as yuri, because yuri is about feelings.
Well, I was talking more about, say, if you showed your picture to a random person on the street, one who has no knowledge of the series. They might look at your pic and say "It's two friends out shopping."
Where as a picture of them making out would most certainly get responses of "Two lesbians kissing."
In short you have to consider that some people simply like to see them as friends, if they're doing something which hint Yuri then that's a given, but the pic is more of "tired... can't move... Nanoha can you give me a piggy back... thanks..."
>>528
It depends on the context.
In the context of the series they have feelings for each other, so the pic is yuri. If someone who hasn't watched the series sees the picture, it won't be yuri, because they ignore the relationship between the characters.
This is Ixpellia, right?
Implied yuri
Yup.
I feel sorry for them... Teana is around the corner with her version of Starlight Breaker... I'll call the ambulance...
>>535
The fanart is so wonderful.Just wait until Ix wakes up.
>>538
Teana dealt with it in her usual tsundere way: throw a Starlight Breaker, but miss on purpose. Or maybe she threw that SB just to impress Subaru?
I know this one has a translation up on Danbooru. It's Ginga getting revenge on Subaru for shoving a green onion up her ass when she had a cold.
>>546
Subaru did what???????????
Stuck an onion leek up Ginga's ass. It's a folk remedy for a colds in Japan.
Anyone know of any yuri doujins with Hayate?
Posting a link cause it's too NSFW for posting:
I know I've seen a translated version of this.
>>555
Keep that page in your bookmarks: http://iqdb.org/?css=1
Here again it gave the answer: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/510260
Not quite. Artist is Plum who draws the Magical SEED doujinshi but those are Yami and Mikan from To-Love-Ru.
close one i almost thought it was fate
p/s is this a doujin ...
>>562
Too bad there's no doujin with FatexYami(Golden Darkness)
>>560
I've been in a couple of Fate threads in /a/ when some smartass would post Yami and I'd save it only to go, "Wait, what..." 5 minutes later. lol
Still I love Plum's art.
>>563
For some reason people seem to want to avoid poiting out the similarities b/w the two. I haven't read TLR so I dunno... A FatexYami doujin would be great but FatexAlicia or FatexFate would be awesome...
>>563
Could even be a futa, given Yami-chan's capabilities.
I like Yami and all, but... the original is far superior!
Anyways, one doujinshi comes to mind when you mention Fate/Fate. But... well, let's just say that you wouldn't appreciate some of the content.
> I haven't read TLR
You should. At first it looks like Yet Another Mindless Panty-shot-heavy manga, but there's a lot of likeable characters and interesting relationships. And great art.
Note that the TV series is a pretty good adaptation.
> people seem to want to avoid poiting out the similarities b/w the two
Indeed, there are a lot of similarities between Fate and Yami. I'd stay that they started similarly, but Yami stayed a tsundere, while Fate quickly lost that entirely.
There's also the fact that in ToLoveRu, violence is played for laughs, and the main male character is routinely hurt just for fun.
>>There's also the fact that in ToLoveRu, violence is played for laughs, and the main male character is routinely hurt just for fun.
Welcome to harem anime.
>>You should. At first it looks like Yet Another Mindless Panty-shot-heavy manga, but there's a lot of likeable characters and interesting relationships.
Lala really needs to be shot, though. She's too stupid to be allowed to exist.
>>And great art.
No argument there. Kentaro Yabuki is a god of sexy girls.
> Lala really needs to be shot, though. She's too stupid to be allowed to exist.
I'm quickly annoyed at stupid people, but Lala didn't strike me as stupid (at least in the manga, which I read first).
She is, however, quite easygoing. She doesn't pay undue attention to little details.
It's a bit like in Candy Boy: at first, Kanade seems level-headed, while Yukino feels like a airhead. But in fact, Yukino is just good at enjoying life instead of caring too much about little details. And when it counts, she really is the more mature sister.
Well, of course, at first Lala has a bit of "culture shock", but once she's used to life on Earth, it disappears.
> Kentaro Yabuki is a god of sexy girls.
Yep. Usually, authors of fan-service-heavy mangas think that the reader will focus under the neck, and don't care too much about faces.
So is there any yuri in this "To Love Ru"?
>>562
Is it a yuri doujin or just another het doujin with a "fake yuri cover"?
> So is there any yuri in this "To Love Ru"?
Nothing explicit (by "explicit", I mean a girl confesses her love to another girl, or they kiss, or something like that), but there's definitely some material: lots of girls, and quite a bit of subtext.
For example, officially Mikan and Yami-chan are friends (when Yami is not busy trying to kill Mikan's brother), but you don't need lots of imagination to see them as lovers (>>560).
>>572
Am I the only one who sees no yuri in that picture? (I'm talking about the picture, not about what you may otherwise think of the characters.)
Even Mikan has a brother complex (she suggests they're not blood related), though. Typical harem manga: all the girls like the one guy.
Though Yami's initial attitude towards Lala has some subtext. There's also Aya and Rin, Saki's followers who idolize her, but that's more intense loyalty.
>>574
No. I see DAAAAAAWWWW...but yuri goggles are strapped to my face!!
>>579
But, my goggles only work on Nanoha...
>>580
Your Yuri goggles are not required, they'll just get lens flare.
>Seeing yuri in a pic like that is like considering any man who is holding a child a pedophile.
It's not any man, they're Nanoha and Fate, hence it's yuri.
>>583 Please read >>574 to the end. It's not that long.
Also, if it's yuri, it's because Vivio and Nanoha are there. Proof: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/334989/ (NSFW).
> they're Nanoha and Fate,
It's more likely that the girl on the left is Alicia. Fate is the same age as Nanoha, while IIRC Alicia doesn't age (see A's episode 11).
> That image is from the NanoFate MegaPack.
Well, the guy who made that pack just thought that it was Fate on the pic. That doesn't prove anything.
>>587
Suddenly, all the NanoFate pics are now AliNano.
Fabien: A genius among geniuses.
Seems we've gone off on a silly tangent again... Well, at least it wasn't my fault this time >>
Anyways, the image in question features adult Nanoha and child Fate. Even though it features Nanoha and Fate, since one of them is a child, it does change the context. Since most [decent] people don't equate children with something sexual (in this case, yuri), one may not view such an image that way.
Of course if it was child Nanoha and child Fate, that's a different story.
>>Even Mikan has a brother complex (she suggests they're not blood related)
She was lying, she just said it to mess with Rito because he was gullible enough to believe it and she likes to tease him. She probably would still go for him if he really tried, though. Which he won't, because he's a colossal wuss even by harem standards.
Anyone have this? Is this a yuri doujin?
So, in summary:
Adult Nanoha + Child Fate => not yuri
Child Nanoha + Child Fate => yuri
Adult Nanoha + Child Vivio => yuri
Man, MGLN is more complicated than I thought.
>>598
>>597
>>596
Amazing <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
http://reikosan.deviantart.com/gallery/#Subaru-X-Teana <- More SubaTea.
NSFW SubaruTeana English
http://rapidshare.com/files/282026520/_IceViking__Unknown_Author_UnknownTitle.zip
Warning: Involves use of a double-ended-dildo, but otherwise no man parts.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0ah555/n/_NanoFate_Sweetest_Love_Nanoha_Doujin_Yuri_English_zip
New release. NSFW. The art is amazing and faptastic. The story, well, it's that same 'perfect couple' stuff that I find to be so utterly boring. Well, if like it that way, then I'm sure you'll be moved to tears.
>>606
Oh wow, this is the best doujin I've ever read.
Nanoha and Fate are the perfect couple.
This is just wonderful.
What's going on here.
This is either some craaaaazy magic going on here or a case of Precia's revenge.. =O
Something don't seem right here... Nanoha what in blue blazes have you been telling your daughter???? lol
I dunno... considering how Project F and the Combat Cyborgs are viewed, I don't think Mid Childan society would allow for genetic engineering offspring like these images suggest. To get that result, I think they'd have to adopt or find sperm from donors who share a resemblance.
>>614
Making a child from two females has nothing to do with genetic engineering. But anyway, if they don't allow it in such a modern culture as Mid Childa's, they can do it in other places or even in Earth (they should be around year 2030 by the time).
>>Making a child from two females has nothing to do with genetic engineering
Really? I'm no expert on genetics, but I'm pretty sure two egg cells don't go together naturally...
Ditto on this end.
Still you never know they might start allowing it... then again I think most people would start saying that one of them is a Futari... damn it I said it shoots self and returns as ghost to haunt the board! lol
If you take the 23 chromosomes from an ovum, and put them into another female's ovum, it might possible to obtain the fertilization, and thus get an offspring (obviously female, since there's no Y chromosome involved.)
No gene-level manipulation has been done; in fact, the process is very close to natural fertilization of an ovum by a sperm cell.
Genetic engineering is different: it's trying to change specific characteristics of the body by altering specific genes.
So, you can forbid genetic manipulations, but still allow two women to have a child.
>>If you take the 23 chromosomes from an ovum, and put them into another female's ovum, it might possible to obtain the fertilization, and thus get an offspring (obviously female, since there's no Y chromosome involved.)
It's the end of the male sex as we know it, isn't it!?
Anyways, I suppose it could work like that. I'd need to see some studies done on this possibility, though. Perhaps the genes in two eggs can't complete each other? Like the positive end of a magnet. You can't put two positives together, you have to use a negative (genes carried by sperm in this case). But like I said, I'm no expert on genetics.
I just remembered that they did something like that in Vandread on the women's planet. The guy's planet could only make clones.
>Anyways, I suppose it could work like that. I'd need to see some studies done on this possibility, though.
>>mouse with transplanted human testicles
God damnit, science!
Anyways, not gonna read all that, but from the diagrams, it seems you still need to mess around with male sperm and all that. I imagine it'd be horribly expensive, not to mention impractical.
Anyways, we're talking fiction here, so anything goes.
>it seems you still need to mess around with male sperm and all that.
Go read the whole thing.
Also, post pics.
>>Go read the whole thing
I'll pass. But yeah, I should correctly myself, the diagram said bone marrow cells from the father/brother, not sperm cells.
>>Also, post pics.
Yes sir!
>>614
I'd have to agree with this. Plus, I'm pretty sure playing around with test tube babies is like the first item on Fate's rage list.
>>Making a child from two females has nothing to do with genetic engineering
Wait what. lol
>>617
What. I thought the general belief was that Fate was the one who had the pe..--starts having a heart attack and dies--
>>620
And here I was thinking you needed two different puzzle pieces to form babby.
BTW, on the subject, not really scientific but a really enjoyable read: Blue Genes, by McDermid.
>>I'm pretty sure playing around with test tube babies is like the first item on Fate's rage list
I agree with this, too. Fate wouldn't be so keen on the idea because of what happened to her.
Frankly, I think what would most likely happen is something like this: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5001459
Yeah, I know how we all feel about Fanfiction, but at least this one attempts to be educational =/
I'll sage myself anyways, though.
>>630
That fic was awful, what is the problem with that author? In a world of technology and magic such archaic methods of reproduction for same sex couples should be long time obsolete.
Same sex procreation doesn't involve any "test tube babies" or cloning. If Nanoha and Fate decide to have another daughter, she would be a genetic one,.
I think you might be overestimating Mid's technology. Heck, they didn't even perfect cloning until Precia did it. Jail was the one who set the ground work for it, for that matter. They were criminals for a reason. If these are the people who develop such life manipulating technology, well...
In regard to whether or not it's even possible to get a baby from the genetic material of two members of the same sex, after researching it further at my university, it doesn't look too promising. That website posted up there is really the only study done on the subject. Even then, the patent is only being placed on the theory. There has been no experimental research done to prove that the process outlined will even work or not. Not to mention all the health concerns that may result (like the cells becoming cancerous). On top of that, they make note that it's less likely to succeed with female sperm.
Regardless of if it's possible or not, there's still the ethical issue. It's up to the government to decide if they'll allow something or not. Again, given the illegal nature of Project F and the Combat Cyborgs, there's more reason to believe that Mid would ban such a method. Knowing Nanoha and Fate, I doubt they'd resort to the black market.
Of course it's all fine in regards to fan art or whatever. It's not going to harm anyone having pictures of Nanoha and Fate with biological children and justify it as "It's magic, it just works like that."
However, if we're too look at it with a serious and critical eye, such a situation is most likely improbable.
Personally, I doubt Nanoha and Fate would even want anymore children. They're still full on workaholics, and I doubt either would retire unless they absolutely had to (look how much trouble it took to make Nanoha take a break!). So staying home and raising a child probably wouldn't be so appealing. At least with Erio, Caro, and Vivio, they were old enough to have a certain degree of independance and didn't require their mothers' attention 24/7.
I think they're perfectly content with having Vivio as their only child.
>There has been no experimental research done to prove that the process outlined will even work or not.
Do proper research.
>Heck, they didn't even perfect cloning until Precia did it. Jail was the one who set the ground work for it, for that matter. They were criminals for a reason.
>Again, given the illegal nature of Project F and the Combat Cyborgs, there's more reason to believe that Mid would ban such a method.
Cloning or genetic engineering has nothing to do with same sex procreation.
Precia and Jail weren't criminals for cloning.
>It's not going to harm anyone having pictures of Nanoha and Fate with biological children and justify it as "It's magic, it just works like that."
Magic works too, but it would be easier and safer to to rely on technology.
>However, if we're too look at it with a serious and critical eye, such a situation is most likely improbable.
It's highly probably in our own world in two or three decades, hence we can take it for guaranteed in Mid and other worlds.
>>635
Point taken.
But then again have you consider about the issue that people don't like Genetics or what not, because it's "unnatural" and goes against nature?
So it could simply be that they don't do it because of that reason, or maybe there are other reason which we don't know about.
But it don't matter I guess since we don't know how far their technology is compare to their magic.
Ah well.
you have a point, imagine if Nanoha was house bound for a week... there goes the insurance companies...
>>Do proper research.
Why don't you? Please, if you know of a study that involves a child successfully being born from this process inform us all. Because the material I've found (published in 2008), makes no mention of it working. Heck, even the inventor, when speaking of his patent application, said that you can patent something regardless if it actually works or not.
If such a process were successful, it would be all over the news.
>>Cloning or genetic engineering has nothing to do with same sex procreation.
Oh? Then how is it done, since you're the expert. Because as far as I know, it still involves taking human cells and messing with them in a way nature never intended.
At any rate, there's been no mention of such things in canon materials. What I say may be wrong, but what you say has an equal chance of being wrong.
>Why don't you? Please, if you know of a study that involves a child successfully being born from this process inform us all.
Mice.
>Genetics
>it still involves taking human cells and messing with them in a way nature never intended.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics
>At any rate, there's been no mention of such things in canon materials. What I say may be wrong, but what you say has an equal chance of being wrong.
No, what I'm doing is taking a natural progression of our technology, while you're making everything progress except for medical technology.
Because what works on mice always works on humans, right? But yeah, they did manage to make the cells with mice, however they have yet actually fertilize them and produce offspring.
>>while you're making everything progress except for medical technology
Because Mid is very anal about medical technology. That's what's Jail's crazy plan was all about! He wanted a place where he could screw around with life however he wanted without having the Bureau get on his case.
Their medical technology is not that great anyways, considering how they can't stop Nanoha from dying, and it took her excruciating rehab in order to walk again. Healing magic can take care of minor scrapes and flesh wounds, but other than that, who knows.
>Their medical technology is not that great anyways, considering how they can't stop Nanoha from dying, and it took her excruciating rehab in order to walk again.
They did stop her from dying, what's your point? And how you pretend to accelerate rehab? In the room of spirit and time?
Still doesn't stop her from dying gradually.
My point is if magic is all powerful like you seem to think it is, then they'd be able to just cast a spell and Nanoha would have all her bones and muscles healed, then be able to walk out of the hospital in an hour.
But it's not that easy. Combining two eggs to make a child isn't that easy either.
And who knows? Maybe there was a world that did have this technology, but the species eventually died out because of it. That's ample reason for the TSAB to ban it.
>Still doesn't stop her from dying gradually.
What?
>My point is if magic is all powerful like you seem to think it is
We're talking about medical technology.
>But it's not that easy. Combining two eggs to make a child isn't that easy either.
It's in the boundaries of our own technology, and it's way simpler than teleportation or building space ships.
>>What?
Didn't you know? Each time Nanoha uses her magic, she's slowly destroying her body. She will die if she keeps it up. They can't stop it. All they can do is hope her body will pull itself back together with time.
>>We're talking about medical technology.
Clarke's third law: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
The magic in Nanoha is not mystical, it's highly advanced technology. The two words are synonymous.
>>It's in the boundaries of our own technology
Not yet its not. It might work in theory, but it has yet to work in practise. World peace is possible in theory, but in practise, it's an impossible dream.
>>it's way simpler than teleportation or building space ships.
Those things have wide spread applications (particularly military ones), so naturally development of such things would get lots of funding and support and be realised far sooner than same sex production, which only appeals to a minority of the population. I wouldn't be surprise if there were more people working on a cure for the common cold.
>Didn't you know? Each time Nanoha uses her magic, she's slowly destroying her body
Linker Core != Body.
Also it's only if she overdo it.
>The magic in Nanoha is not mystical, it's highly advanced technology. The two words are synonymous.
No, all the mages are capable of using magic without technology or a device.
>Not yet its not. It might work in theory, but it has yet to work in practise.
It's in the boundaries of our technology because it's possible with our actual technology.
>Those things have wide spread applications (particularly military ones), so naturally development of such things would get lots of funding and support and be realised far sooner than same sex production, which only appeals to a minority of the population.
Seeing how much money Nanoh7a and Fate get from their job, I wouldn't be surprised if they can make such founding.
Anyways such technology should be available in many worlds by that date, including Earth.
>>645
Sorry, I just got to read your little argument, but...
>Linker Core != Body.
Did you not notice when Nanoha uses her Blaster form she BLEEDS? That may be from high power magic, so that would probably only accelerate the deterioration of her body.
>It's in the boundaries of our technology because it's possible with our actual technology.
What don't you get about "It hasn't worked yet"?
>Seeing how much money Nanoh7a and Fate get from their job, I wouldn't be surprised if they can make such founding.
>Anyways such technology should be available in many worlds by that date, including Earth.
...I think you're overestimating their pay grade. Vastly. They are two high level people, they don't have as much access to resources as military researchers would.
>>No, all the mages are capable of using magic without technology or a device.
This is true, however, the 'magic' is still technology derived, not supernatural. It's all about drawing in energy from the surroundings (through the linker core), and then applying that energy through formulas and what not. A mage can do these formulas in their head, but it's a lot easier and more efficient to have a device assist in those calculations.
I should post a pic...
>Did you not notice when Nanoha uses her Blaster form she BLEEDS? That may be from high power magic, so that would probably only accelerate the deterioration of her body.
Yeah, but that only should happen when she reaches her limits, not from regular use of magic. Otherwise I'm sure that Fate would have Nanoha as a housewife raising their kids instead.
>What don't you get about "It hasn't worked yet"?
I never said that.
>...I think you're overestimating their pay grade. Vastly.
That was intended to be a joke.
Fate got a sport car from somewhere and now they bought their own house, it's like they're really swimming in money!
>This is true, however, the 'magic' is still technology derived, not supernatural.
It's supported by technology, not derived. And it's something natural, since all the humans are born with a Linker Core.
>It's all about drawing in energy from the surroundings (through the linker core)
The magic in the Nanohaverse works using the mage's mana, not the energy of their surroundings (except for some kinds of spells).
Yeah... Let's post pics...
Pics are nice, but it's good to discuss something once in awhile. This recent conversation was pretty decent, all things considered. You can tell because it didn't devolve into accusations of trolling and quoting others as saying "BAAAAW".
>>652
That's what I'm afraid of. This thread is like troll central.
Who needs context when you can make your own?!
The head design is worst
dont play with it D :
>>657
Huh. I don't think I've ever seen the TV version of Strikers but I like the way it looks. Anyway, this scene has an omake that makes me giggle every time I come across it. Strikers is more entertaining when viewed in yuri vision.
I'm not too sure who to be worried about, Fate from Signum or chibi Nano from Fate THEN Signum...lol
So, which do people prefer? Fate Testarossa Harlaown Takamachi or Nanoha Takamachi Harlaown?
>>664
According to Japan the "T" from Fate T Harlaown now stands for Takamachi.
>>665
Yeah, you're going to have to cite a credible source. As far as I know, it's always been Fate Testarossa Harlaown.
As for which I prefer? Neither because it's too long (But it's cute to hear Fate apologize for having a long name in one of the Sound stages lol) and Harlown is too hard to spell.
I don't think Fate would ever drop the Testarossa out of her name. She still wants to keep her attachment to Precia, even if the woman was a total bitch.
Well, looking at Force, it's either a) the T meaning did change, b) Nanoha will have 'Harlaown' at the end of her name when she's introduced, or c) their relationship hasn't reached the point of sharing last names yet.
This post is the devil!
The discussion is kinda moot, since Fate will marry me anyway.
> their relationship hasn't reached the point of sharing last names yet.
I'm still fairly sure that 7 Arcs will never acknowledge that they're a couple. So, each one will keep their original names.
>>666
It's just something made up by the fans.
>I'm still fairly sure that 7 Arcs will never acknowledge that they're a couple.
They already did, where have you been?
Go read the Het thread, and if you want to troll do it there.
>>They already did, where have you been?
No, they haven't. They've built it up to the point where it might as well be confirmed, but no one has flat out said "Oh, Nanoha and Fate are a lesbian couple."
If I'm mistaken, please provide a quote.
Who said it wasn't canon? We just said it hasn't been stated out right.
>>667
WHA?! D:
>>669
Yeah, I figured. There's even a "Takamachi Family" tag at Danbooru which includes pics of Nanoha, Fate, and Vivio but funnily enough, the pic of the actual Takamachi family (Shirou, Momoko, Miyuki, Kyouya, and Nanoha) isn't there.
I'm hoping we can avert another trolling party in this thread. It seems like some people are really trying to push for another. This is why we can't have nice things.
>Fate will marry me anyway.
Excuse me, sir. You will have to get through me, 80% of Japan, all of mid-childa, the TSAB, and Nanoha first. --Prepares to die FOR LOVE-- ;_;
By the way, nobody should be trolling anywhere except 4chan. Do it there.
>>674
Your image feels vaguely K-ON-ish.
> You will have to get through me, 80% of Japan, all of mid-childa, the TSAB, and Nanoha first.
Yeah, you're right, bad idea.
OK, fine, I'll marry both Nanoha and Fate. That way, everyone wins: they get to stay together, and I don't have to care what anyone on Earth think, since nobody can pass though Nanoha's shields.
Oddly enough, I find there's less trolling on 4chan. At least on /m/. We usually have good Nanoha threads there, when sagers don't come in going "NOT /m/!" anyways. This usually doesn't happen with Numbers threads, though.
I mentioned this earlier, but there was a thread there once where we debated the nature of the relationships, and it stayed pretty civil. The general attitude there is that shipping is stupid, anyways.
>Excuse me, sir. You will have to get through me, 80% of Japan, all of mid-childa, the TSAB, and Nanoha first. --Prepares to die FOR LOVE-- ;_;
Signum is the first in line, please wait for your turn guys.
>>675
Now that you mention it, Fate looks a bit like that Mio chick but oh well. It's still cute.
>>OK, fine, I'll marry both Nanoha and Fate.
In that case, can I marry you too? I can cook and clean. I also give great massages. ;)
>>676
Nanoha threads in /m/? Maybe I should pay a visit.
In /a/, Nanoha threads usually are imagedumps. The trolling starts when imagebombers randomly start bombng the thread or when the discussion starts and somebody feels that they have to troll yurifags or ferretfags.
You can't exactly claim one discussion is 'more real' than another. Also, using /u/ as your base point hardly lends to the argument. There's a clear sampling bias going on there. It'd be like going to a baseball game and asking "Who here likes baseball?" Using /m/ provides more of a random sample.
Anyways, this is irrelevant.
I don't mind sharing my wife with Carim, so long as I get to watch/join in. If any of the Wolkenritter want to participate, the more the merrier!
>>681
In the big Nanoha threads usually there are more people from /a/ than /u/.
And there are actually mods there, if someone tries to troll the posts are deleted.
>>683
Last I checked, there was some NanoFate, but the thread was full of guro.
To be honest I don't go to /a/ anymore. /m/ is my only haunt. And /h/ too, of course. I did visit /a/ a few days ago out of boredom and curiosity as to what they thought about Darker than Black 2.
Hamburger-kun is surprisingly popular.
This is from /a/ too
>>688
Holy shit. I always thought that was from /u/.
Nanoha's mom is so moe...
Now that is called "tough love"...
Maybe Fate wasn't very cooperative with Nanoha when she said she needed to express her love... that'll teach Fate! Refusing the White Devil always ends up with a painful lesson!
Translation according to http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2716268&postcount=21532
"Uhehe, young girl, what color are your panties?"
"White with a teddy bear, but who are you?"
"Allo? Allo?"
"Panties"
Hayate.
http://www.tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=257957
Plum's SEED Other has been translated. It's mostly het, but it's got NanoFate in it so I figured I'd post it here, since we're all aware of the condition the het thread is in.
>>697
Plum anything is always awesome... as long as Fate is in itcoughcoughcough...
Look! Look! It's a thread for NanoFate stuff!
Also 700 GET
I'll probably get shot but hey any pairing goes!
Nah, you're fine. For some reason no one complains if you pair Nanoha or Fate with other girls.
Either someone forgot the pay the bill at NanoFate.us again or I'm having more problems with my new IP because I keep getting redirected to MyBookFace.net. Anyone else having this problem?
Adult Fate and child Nanoha
Futanari
http://www.mediafire.com/?linzzwtznqq
I love how it doesn't even try to explain why they have penises.
Senya Sabou is a futanari artist. All his girls have penises.
Not that it's hard to explain away in a world where magic is commonplace. The part about making a little sister for Vivio, though... that won't be quite as easy to handwave.
From image thread:
http://www.mediafire.com/?njtykhy0tuo
Well, it seems we have some individuals here that aren't too bright. So, it's the job of the intellectually superior to teach them:
Pay close attention, class! This is how you post yuri in the yuri thread!
Need another example? Here you go!
Notice how this is an image featuring shoujo-ai, so what thread should it be posted in? That's right! The shoujo-ai thread! You know where it doesn't belong? In the het thread, because het is different from shoujo-ai.
Did you get all that? Be sure to remember it because it will be on the test!